Poor Milosevic

Post by **-Replicant-** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:58 pm

found dead in his cell this morning. http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/03 ... index.html

Post by **busetibi** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:55 am

why "poor milosevic"?

Post by ek » Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:20 am

shame his trial took so long, but i wont shed any tears that he is dead.

Post by **Captain** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:23 am

He was a good man:/

Post by ek » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:24 am

Fuck off you imbecile...

Post by **busetibi** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:52 am

Captain Jihad wrote:He was a good man:/

you are dumb beyond belief,
a good man aye?
try telling that to the 8000 muslim men and boys that got butchered in Srebrenica.
DIAF you fuck :icon10:

Post by **Cooldown** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:52 am

Post by **Ryoki** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:00 am

Some outstanding columns on his passing on antiwar.com. People who think the guy was a modern day Joseph Stalin (like busetbi perhaps) should go and read this.

http://www.antiwar.com/orig/jscahill.php?articleid=8692

http://www.antiwar.com/roberts/?articleid=8690

Post by ek » Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:49 am

awesome conspiracy theories already, he died as the human piece of shit that he is. he practically drove every country in the balkans to the brink of ruin, including serbia and montenegro. i wont be crying over his death.

Post by **busetibi** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:54 am

i see your two url's, and give you three back.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ ... 94D56F.htm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4797564.stm

http://www.slate.com/id/2137950/

*last one may take some time to load

Post by **Ryoki** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:19 am

The URL's i posted don't really contradict yours... they mostly confirm and add additional stuff. It's the additional stuff that's interesting.

Post by **busetibi** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:20 am

oh you mean the "lets bash the usa" bits.
it was you not i that brought Stalins name into it,
Freudian slip?
i dont intend to get into a slagging match with you Ryoki.
that dead evil bastard is not worth the effort

Post by **Ryoki** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:36 am

busetibi wrote:oh you mean the "lets bash the usa" bits.
it was you not i that brought Stalins name into it,
Freudian slip?
i dont intend to get into a slagging match with you Ryoki.
that dead evil bastard is not worth the effort

True dat. :icon14:

But for what it's worth, it's more 'let's bash the NATO' and 'hey he wasn't the only bad guy' kinda stuff. There's lots of hypocracy going on in former Yugoslavia... people who did terrible things in the civil war ended up in positions of power after the fighting was done. In Serbia most of the major players got extradited under political pressure from the US and the EU (save for those obvious two), but only a few Croatians or Bosnians have been put behind bars. The Serbian argument that The Hague is biased holds some truth...

PS Freudian? Are you implying i'm sexually attracted to murderous paranoid psychos with large decorative moustaches? I am offended sir!

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:06 pm

precisely. although the guy probably committed some serious war crimes, he wasn't the only one

Post by **busetibi** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:20 pm

but if he had'nt stirred the nation up in 91, and started the Croation war the UN wouldn't have imposed economic sanctions.
he still kept up the "ethnic cleansing" he was warned if he didnt stop the shit, NATO would start the bombing, in fact it was only the bombing that drove him to sign the Dayton Accords.
Croatia,Bosnia and Kosovo laid to waste

hundreds of thousands dead and displaced.
yes, i realise that both sides commited crimes, but his was the greater by starting it all in the first place.
i'm sorry if i offended you, it was not my intention

Post by **S@M** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:25 pm

I think it was the moustache link that really hit ryoki, but i dont buy the whole "there were worse than him so he was not so bad" arguement, he was a piece of shit, now hes a dead one. Its all good.

Post by **Ryoki** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:51 pm

I actually typed up another reply to this, to sort of extend the discussion, but then the forum crashed again. This happened many hours ago, and i've now forgotten what it was about.

So err... yeah.

Post by **mik0rs** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 3:53 pm

He was a shit striker for Aston Villa anyway.

Post by **R00k** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 4:23 pm

The day before he died he apparently told his lawyer that he thought someone was trying to poison him.

When the autopsy came back, it was declared that he intentionally took medication that interfered with his heart medicine and killed himself.

At any rate, he truly was a piece of shit and the world's better off without him.

Post by ek » Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:46 pm

R00k wrote: When the autopsy came back, it was declared that he intentionally took medication that interfered with his heart medicine and killed himself.

got a link?

Post by **Ryoki** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:38 am

EDIT: Wow, this one is actually much better:

http://www.antiwar.com/malic/?articleid=8706

Post by **busetibi** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:50 am

"Just about everything here is false. Milosevic never called for war –"

"After Croatia declared independence, the Serb minority in Croatia - who had proclaimed regional autonomy in Krajina - looked to Milosevic for support. He responded with typical bravado: "We believe that Serbs have the legitimate right to live in one country. If we must fight then by God, we will fight," he said"

o k a y, so he's inviting everyone for a bbq?
yes?

Post by **Ezekiel** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:06 am

The nationalism in the Balkan states has always proven to be a problem, and to those that believe in what they are doing there is no changing their mindset. I’ll use the RSB (Red Star Belgrade) football team as an example – their fans are famous for their riots and fighting (they are still banned from European matches), and are known as ‘The Tigers’. On the back wall of their home stand is a small plaque, when translated into English it reads along the lines of ”This plaque is dedicated to all of Arkan's Tigers that gave their lives from 92-95”.

Who was Arkan? His real name was Zeljko Raznatovic, and he had a free hand in attacks on frontline villages in Croatia. Contemptuous of the fighting qualities of the regular Yugoslav army, he had no difficulty in deploying his paramilitary troops into Bosnia in April, 1992. The ‘Tigers’ recognised on the plaque were part of his forces, and the fans that so proudly follow the RSB club are the survivors of his units. They are the same Tigers that drove tens of thousands of Muslims from their homes.

Milosevic may be dead, but people that helped create his legacy are still out there. To date, the UN have failed to capture any of them.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:56 am

It's strange a person like milosevic needed killing unless he had something to say that wasn't meant to be said. What else would he be killed for? I think it more likely he really did commit suicide.

Post by **Ryoki** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:48 am

Suicide makes little sense for many reasons, it's just very unlikely.