A bit of HTML help

Post by **MKJ** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:08 pm

its not 
i started to doubt and checked w3s dtd and its (including space). theres no such thing as .

 is html 4 while is xhtml. its always cleaner to use regardless of html version though

[edit] oh i see you edited. well the last line of my post is still of some use to brisk

Post by **dmmh** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:08 pm

MKJ wrote: its not 
i started to doubt and checked w3s dtd and its (including space). theres no such thing as .

 is html 4 while is xhtml. its always cleaner to use regardless of html version though

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Post by **MKJ** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:09 pm

will you stop editing and replying so fast? lol

Post by **dmmh** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:10 pm

all my pages validate though

Post by **dmmh** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:10 pm

MKJ wrote:will you stop editing and replying so fast? lol

Post by **MKJ** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:12 pm

i get 404s on cinemasiafreaks.com

Post by **dmmh** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:18 pm

thats funny, on the index?

Post by **dmmh** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:19 pm

mmm , appears my host is down

Post by **brisk** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:39 pm

http://www.onefootinthegroove.net/test/index3.php

I hope thats a little better for you code nazi's

Thanks again for the help all.

Post by **dmmh** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:43 pm

brisk wrote:
I hope thats a little better for you code nazi's

lol, just trying to help m8

what good is it to teach if you aint gonna do it properly?

Post by **brisk** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:46 pm

Absolutely.

Post by **brisk** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:48 pm

Oh, and lest I forget:

brisk wrote:And another question:

I have a v small bg image which creates the interlace effect you see. However, I have a problem with normal images which aren't transparent and show this interlacing underneath (even if I use a transparent gif)

Is that something else which can be overcome?

Post by **dmmh** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:52 pm

im a noob when it comes to imaging, even on the web

maybe MKJ can fill you in on this one

Post by **MKJ** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:30 pm

im not quite sure what you mean

Post by **brisk** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:38 pm

MKJ wrote:im not quite sure what you mean

I have a background image embeded into the HTML (which is about 2x3 pixels in size and used to create the interlace effect).

Now imagine I have a transparent gif which I will be using for that gradient to the left. I will want it to fade from gray into transparency.

However, when I use transparency in a GIF image, it isn't transparent (i'm guessing because of that damn bg image)

Hope this makes sense.

Post by **MKJ** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:41 pm

gifs dont have translucency, only transparency. since an alpha gradient will go from opaque to transparect using different levels of translucency, the gif will just flatten all translucent 'steps' with the matte color (which is white in this case).

in other words, it wont work. a PNG would do the trick but guess what browser doesnt support PNG translucency...

the only way you are going to get this is by adding the scanlines to the gradient gif and then hope it matches up with the browser background (which it most likely wont since youre using a liquid page).

Post by **MKJ** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:45 pm

oh and you might want to use a bigger bgimage. the visual result will be the same but using a tiny bg image to fill up an entire page eats rendering time & memory. ofcourse theres also the case you go too big which will eat memory too

make it 20x20 or summat, or even more horizontal to reduce tiling (300x20)

Post by **brisk** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:47 pm

MKJ wrote:gifs dont have translucency, only transparency. since an alpha gradient will go from opaque to transparect using different levels of translucency, the gif will just flatten all translucent 'steps' with the matte color (which is white in this case).

in other words, it wont work. a PNG would do the trick but guess what browser doesnt support PNG translucency...

the only way you are going to get this is by adding the scanlines to the gradient gif and then hope it matches up with the browser background (which it most likely wont since youre using a liquid page).

Ah yes, silly me. I think i'll just leave it - not really that noticable anyway.