Years ago, I was kindof fed up with the community here at Q3W cause I thought you were all a bunch of idiots who are pretty pathetic in nature. So I said for the next couple years I would basicly play your role until you got sick of me. Which I've been doing but today I kinda feel the need to point out why I did this and this is a good thread to do it in.
Second, every idiot laughing at this poor kid to make themselves look tough on the internet is a fucking social retard. Do you really think that 14 year old kid had the mental or emotional capacity to understand the concequences of his actions? I fucking doubt it. I know when I was 14, I didn't have the emotional stability I have now.
We aren't talking smarts here people we're talking emotions so strong that even the most intellectual individual will still fail miserably when it comes to emotional matters if they aren't prepared and that comes from experience and a little guidance from your friends and parents. Seriously, this kid isn't at fault for what he did in my humble opinion.
So given that fact, you idiots laughing at this kid have about the same emotional intellect as that kid probably had. And he was only 14 and given the choice, I think he deserved to live more than any person who thinks it's funny a kid killed himself over a video game. Obviously, that kid had issues with reality. Obviously, so do some people on this messageboard. This kid obviously spent a lot of time on the internet, obviously so do you idiots that are laughing at him. That kid had friends online, a long list apprently and few friends in real life. It wouldn't surprise me, that the idiots laughing at him in this thread are suffering the same fate. So laugh it up assholes, even better post about how wrong I am, I'd love to hear it you sad fucking cunts.
ToxicBug wrote:Actually it probably has 230bhp since the chip adds 40 and it has a bigger downpipe and lighter pulleys. He demolished another 1.8T chipped jetta yesterday by bus lengths and he destroyed a G35c, so its quick. It ran 14.5@102mph in 0 degree weather with stock suspension and stock exhaust, so now it should be close to 14 flat. What did yours run on the 1/4 mile?
Totally wrong. The standard jetta is 150hp, so adding 40hp to that is 190hp. 150+50=190. Use a calculator if you don't believe me. Maybe, MAYBE a downpipe added 10hp, if you're lucky. hence my "207hp"(the 7 might be gained from a performance fuel). But maybe you're talking about the 5-speed tiptronic, because I think that comes with 180 to compensate for the extra weight. But, my math is nothing if not fantastic, and 180+40=220, so the lighter pulleys and downpipe might help it develop an extra 10 or so hp, but that'll be offset by the extra weight from the tiptronic system.
I don't know what you're trying to prove to me. It seems like you're saying my car isn't fast, yet a car that's never even close to the power of mine can only be described as "holy fuck"
Let's take my stock s3. 225hp with 4 wheel drive and an amazing chassis and have it ECU remapped by Revo. Let's also add a fully adjustable Koni Coilover Kit with poly bushes, and a carbon fibre front strut. then put some samco hoses in with a forge dv to increase throttle responce and stop intake collapse. Obviously I'd need better brakes, so the rear I leave stock, and up front I put a nice big pair of Brembo GT's. A milltek catback exhaust system is next, adding a small amount of HP, added with some 98ron fuel, we're currently touching 300hp. Next lets add some nice OZ lightweight alloys, and throw the spare out of the boot to reduce a bit of weight.
the next thing I do is close all of my fingers and then slowly extend my middle at which point I laugh at you for being such a twat
but well done your friend. He managed to beat a VW jetta in his VW jetta. I heard they use them as pace cars in f1 racing these days
his is a 2003, 180hp engine stock. Its 5 speed manual btw. I don't get it. You've chipped your 225hp 1.8T and you're hitting 300hp now? With the stock turbo and intercooler? Did you dyno your car at least
Grandpa Stu wrote:yummy, EVOs and a WRX. hella nice cars. btw thanks for that quote it brought a smile to my face. My friend can slip the tires all the way into 3rd gear no problem with his STOCK Cobalt SS. that jetta isn't anything to jump over joy about. fuck even i've chirped the tires while downshifting into second gear even when my car was stock...that's with AWD and rather sticky tires.
if your friend had taken the money he spent upgrading his car and put it towards buying a better car than a jetta i'm sure he could have a stock car that runs better than his "performance" jetta.
I didn't say that it spun while shifting. I can chirp the tires shifting into 3rd in my stock sentra. I was saying that I start rolling, shift softly into 2nd, floor it at 2000 rpm and the wheels spin starting at about 3000 to redline.
ToxicBug wrote:Actually it probably has 230bhp since the chip adds 40 and it has a bigger downpipe and lighter pulleys. He demolished another 1.8T chipped jetta yesterday by bus lengths and he destroyed a G35c, so its quick. It ran 14.5@102mph in 0 degree weather with stock suspension and stock exhaust, so now it should be close to 14 flat. What did yours run on the 1/4 mile?
Totally wrong. The standard jetta is 150hp, so adding 40hp to that is 190hp. 150+50=190. Use a calculator if you don't believe me. Maybe, MAYBE a downpipe added 10hp, if you're lucky. hence my "207hp"(the 7 might be gained from a performance fuel). But maybe you're talking about the 5-speed tiptronic, because I think that comes with 180 to compensate for the extra weight. But, my math is nothing if not fantastic, and 180+40=220, so the lighter pulleys and downpipe might help it develop an extra 10 or so hp, but that'll be offset by the extra weight from the tiptronic system.
I don't know what you're trying to prove to me. It seems like you're saying my car isn't fast, yet a car that's never even close to the power of mine can only be described as "holy fuck"
Let's take my stock s3. 225hp with 4 wheel drive and an amazing chassis and have it ECU remapped by Revo. Let's also add a fully adjustable Koni Coilover Kit with poly bushes, and a carbon fibre front strut. then put some samco hoses in with a forge dv to increase throttle responce and stop intake collapse. Obviously I'd need better brakes, so the rear I leave stock, and up front I put a nice big pair of Brembo GT's. A milltek catback exhaust system is next, adding a small amount of HP, added with some 98ron fuel, we're currently touching 300hp. Next lets add some nice OZ lightweight alloys, and throw the spare out of the boot to reduce a bit of weight.
the next thing I do is close all of my fingers and then slowly extend my middle at which point I laugh at you for being such a twat
but well done your friend. He managed to beat a VW jetta in his VW jetta. I heard they use them as pace cars in f1 racing these days
his is a 2003, 180hp engine stock. Its 5 speed manual btw. I don't get it. You've chipped your 225hp 1.8T and you're hitting 300hp now? With the stock turbo and intercooler? Did you dyno your car at least
Yes it will easily do it.
Most normal turbo's only run @ 6 or 7 psi and can handle closer to 15 - 17 psi (1 bar)
So say for safe messure he let it run @ 13psi constant, thats a VERY
big increase in pressure.
easy get 330bhp out of a stick turbo but its running dangerously
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Quadhore wrote:
Totally wrong. The standard jetta is 150hp, so adding 40hp to that is 190hp. 150+50=190. Use a calculator if you don't believe me. Maybe, MAYBE a downpipe added 10hp, if you're lucky. hence my "207hp"(the 7 might be gained from a performance fuel). But maybe you're talking about the 5-speed tiptronic, because I think that comes with 180 to compensate for the extra weight. But, my math is nothing if not fantastic, and 180+40=220, so the lighter pulleys and downpipe might help it develop an extra 10 or so hp, but that'll be offset by the extra weight from the tiptronic system.
I don't know what you're trying to prove to me. It seems like you're saying my car isn't fast, yet a car that's never even close to the power of mine can only be described as "holy fuck"
Let's take my stock s3. 225hp with 4 wheel drive and an amazing chassis and have it ECU remapped by Revo. Let's also add a fully adjustable Koni Coilover Kit with poly bushes, and a carbon fibre front strut. then put some samco hoses in with a forge dv to increase throttle responce and stop intake collapse. Obviously I'd need better brakes, so the rear I leave stock, and up front I put a nice big pair of Brembo GT's. A milltek catback exhaust system is next, adding a small amount of HP, added with some 98ron fuel, we're currently touching 300hp. Next lets add some nice OZ lightweight alloys, and throw the spare out of the boot to reduce a bit of weight.
the next thing I do is close all of my fingers and then slowly extend my middle at which point I laugh at you for being such a twat
but well done your friend. He managed to beat a VW jetta in his VW jetta. I heard they use them as pace cars in f1 racing these days
his is a 2003, 180hp engine stock. Its 5 speed manual btw. I don't get it. You've chipped your 225hp 1.8T and you're hitting 300hp now? With the stock turbo and intercooler? Did you dyno your car at least
Yes it will easily do it.
Most normal turbo's only run @ 6 or 7 psi and can handle closer to 15 - 17 psi (1 bar)
So say for safe messure he let it run @ 13psi constant, thats a VERY
big increase in pressure.
easy get 330bhp out of a stick turbo but its running dangerously
My friend's jetta 1.8T is running 24 psi on the stock turbo...
ToxicBug wrote:
his is a 2003, 180hp engine stock. Its 5 speed manual btw. I don't get it. You've chipped your 225hp 1.8T and you're hitting 300hp now? With the stock turbo and intercooler? Did you dyno your car at least
Yes it will easily do it.
Most normal turbo's only run @ 6 or 7 psi and can handle closer to 15 - 17 psi (1 bar)
So say for safe messure he let it run @ 13psi constant, thats a VERY
big increase in pressure.
easy get 330bhp out of a stick turbo but its running dangerously
My friend's jetta 1.8T is running 24 psi on the stock turbo...
Bullshit
Also are you talking about power at the fly or at the wheels?
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ToxicBug wrote:
My friend's jetta 1.8T is running 24 psi on the stock turbo...
Your friend's an idiot. Which of course comes as no surprise.
Let's sum up: On one hand we have an experienced mechanic with an engineering degree giving very specific information about his OWN car, one of many high performance vehicles he's driven.
On the other we have a fucking retard that's driven SOMEONE ELSE'S SLIGHTLY MODIFIED JETTA taking wild-ass guesses at performance numbers.
Hmmm...
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oh and the reason i shout bullshit is because 24psi is about 1.6/1.7 bar.
No way would the standard turbo run at that for long also he would need bigger injectors and also a bigger fuel pump and a new inter cooler.
But the fact is the standard turbo would not hold that much pressure
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Don Carlos wrote:
Yes it will easily do it.
Most normal turbo's only run @ 6 or 7 psi and can handle closer to 15 - 17 psi (1 bar)
So say for safe messure he let it run @ 13psi constant, thats a VERY
big increase in pressure.
easy get 330bhp out of a stick turbo but its running dangerously
My friend's jetta 1.8T is running 24 psi on the stock turbo...
Bullshit
Also are you talking about power at the fly or at the wheels?
I said bhp not whp... And it is running at 24psi, I saw the boost gauge.
ToxicBug wrote:
My friend's jetta 1.8T is running 24 psi on the stock turbo...
Bullshit
Also are you talking about power at the fly or at the wheels?
And it is running at 24psi, I saw the boost gauge.
ROFL!!!!!
Thats brilliant!!!!
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ToxicBug wrote:
And it is running at 24psi, I saw the boost gauge.
ROFL!!!!!
Thats brilliant!!!!
what so funny, the boost gauge said 24 psi... that means that its not running at 24 psi? rofl...
They are as accurate as speedo's mate
Go and have it properly tested :icon27:
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ToxicBug wrote:Actually it probably has 230bhp since the chip adds 40 and it has a bigger downpipe and lighter pulleys. He demolished another 1.8T chipped jetta yesterday by bus lengths and he destroyed a G35c, so its quick. It ran 14.5@102mph in 0 degree weather with stock suspension and stock exhaust, so now it should be close to 14 flat. What did yours run on the 1/4 mile?
I never put it on the track because I wasn't interested in racing a slightly tuned low-end car. I would guess it could run low-15s if I had a good reaction. The engine was very torquey for a turbo but not much top end.
Quadhore wrote:So let me get this straight, toxicbug.. You said my car isn't fast, but a 1.8t jetta, whith the same engine as mine, just heavily under-tuned is"damn quick" and you've "never driven anything as fast" and compared to your car it's "holy fuck".
So what did you mean when you said: "you have no idea what a fast car is. Your S3 isn't fast"
Grandpa Stu wrote:yummy, EVOs and a WRX. hella nice cars. btw thanks for that quote it brought a smile to my face. My friend can slip the tires all the way into 3rd gear no problem with his STOCK Cobalt SS. that jetta isn't anything to jump over joy about. fuck even i've chirped the tires while downshifting into second gear even when my car was stock...that's with AWD and rather sticky tires.
if your friend had taken the money he spent upgrading his car and put it towards buying a better car than a jetta i'm sure he could have a stock car that runs better than his "performance" jetta.
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Quadhore wrote:So let me get this straight, toxicbug.. You said my car isn't fast, but a 1.8t jetta, whith the same engine as mine, just heavily under-tuned is"damn quick" and you've "never driven anything as fast" and compared to your car it's "holy fuck".
So what did you mean when you said: "you have no idea what a fast car is. Your S3 isn't fast"
A chipped Jetta will develop 207bhp maximum.
fucking vtech kids. 2dumb2stupid
S3 is a nice car. Stock they are slow.
Not really
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ToxicBug wrote:Actually it probably has 230bhp since the chip adds 40 and it has a bigger downpipe and lighter pulleys. He demolished another 1.8T chipped jetta yesterday by bus lengths and he destroyed a G35c, so its quick. It ran 14.5@102mph in 0 degree weather with stock suspension and stock exhaust, so now it should be close to 14 flat. What did yours run on the 1/4 mile?
Totally wrong. The standard jetta is 150hp, so adding 40hp to that is 190hp. 150+50=190. Use a calculator if you don't believe me. Maybe, MAYBE a downpipe added 10hp, if you're lucky. hence my "207hp"(the 7 might be gained from a performance fuel). But maybe you're talking about the 5-speed tiptronic, because I think that comes with 180 to compensate for the extra weight. But, my math is nothing if not fantastic, and 180+40=220, so the lighter pulleys and downpipe might help it develop an extra 10 or so hp, but that'll be offset by the extra weight from the tiptronic system.
I don't know what you're trying to prove to me. It seems like you're saying my car isn't fast, yet a car that's never even close to the power of mine can only be described as "holy fuck"
Let's take my stock s3. 225hp with 4 wheel drive and an amazing chassis and have it ECU remapped by Revo. Let's also add a fully adjustable Koni Coilover Kit with poly bushes, and a carbon fibre front strut. then put some samco hoses in with a forge dv to increase throttle responce and stop intake collapse. Obviously I'd need better brakes, so the rear I leave stock, and up front I put a nice big pair of Brembo GT's. A milltek catback exhaust system is next, adding a small amount of HP, added with some 98ron fuel, we're currently touching 300hp. Next lets add some nice OZ lightweight alloys, and throw the spare out of the boot to reduce a bit of weight.
the next thing I do is close all of my fingers and then slowly extend my middle at which point I laugh at you for being such a twat
but well done your friend. He managed to beat a VW jetta in his VW jetta. I heard they use them as pace cars in f1 racing these days
150hp? yes for the awd, aww motors, the awp motors make 180hp.
The stock downpipe is very restrictive, A whole turboback adds a lot more then 10hp. A chip adds 40hp with 80 more torque.
N75H race increases boost, and with a mbc you can achiece anywhere from 22-25 psi depending on how well the waste gate can hold close.
Your s3 is nice, but 4wd does goble up some of the power, how much whp are u putting down?
Gee, something tells me that's not your friend's car.
So, what gas is he running in it? I assume he's got titanium headbolts? Thicker head gasket maybe? What's his compression ratio? What's he using to control the detonation?
