Photo geeks

Post by **Doombrain** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:56 am

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Post by **Dave** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:17 am

Hey, I got that same email. Gotta have a mac to use it, though (muhaha).

Post by **dzjepp** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:25 am

http://fileforum.betanews.com/detail/Ad ... 36827318/1

Is this mac-only? Is it just a free version of photoshop with less features?

Post by **Dave** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:32 am

dzjepp wrote:Is this mac-only? Is it just a free version of photoshop with less features?

Gotta have a mac to use it, though (muhaha).

It probably won't be free.. it's a workflow app like Apple's Aperture. One of those things that if you have to ask what it's for, you probably don't need it

Post by **dzjepp** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:34 am

Ahh so it saves time if you're manipulating a ton of images at once?

Post by **Dave** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:41 am

Yeah, basically.. basic editing, cataloging, and rating. I assume they're doing a rapid public beta on the Mac because Apple fucked up with Aperture and didn't really ask for opinions from people who would end up using it, and as a result many people hate it.

Post by **Eraser** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:46 am

dzjepp wrote:Is it just a free version of photoshop with less features?

At my work we're in fact looking at this. Management recently cracked down on illegal Photoshop installs and everyone without a license had to remove Photoshop (pretty much everyone had it installed and there are only a few licenses for the people that really need it).

Since a lot of people do sporadically need a decent image editing application they said Gimp was a good alternative, but within a few nanoseconds it turned out Gimp is shit.

So is there a good free alternative to Photoshop? Don't need anything as fancy as Photoshop, but at least something that supports (blending of) layers, transparancy and a good amount of file formats. Currently we're hinging towards getting a decent number of Paint Shop Pro licenses (as they cost only the fraction of a Photoshop license) but so far management doesn't really seem to budge.

Post by **reefsurfer** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:08 am

http://www.funmansion.com/templates/vie ... tem&n=2929

Post by **Doombrain** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:32 am

Eraser wrote:
dzjepp wrote:Is it just a free version of photoshop with less features?
At my work we're in fact looking at this. Management recently cracked down on illegal Photoshop installs and everyone without a license had to remove Photoshop (pretty much everyone had it installed and there are only a few licenses for the people that really need it).

Since a lot of people do sporadically need a decent image editing application they said Gimp was a good alternative, but within a few nanoseconds it turned out Gimp is shit.

So is there a good free alternative to Photoshop? Don't need anything as fancy as Photoshop, but at least something that supports (blending of) layers, transparancy and a good amount of file formats. Currently we're hinging towards getting a decent number of Paint Shop Pro licenses (as they cost only the fraction of a Photoshop license) but so far management doesn't really seem to budge.

It's not image editing software so i wouldn't go running to the bosses just yet.

The prime idea behind software like this is if you do a weeks shooting in the same studio with the same white balance, lights, etc you’ll no doubt have 5 to 9 gig of images that need screening. With this kind of software you can set a workflow which will automatically apply your custom levels, saturation and a whole other amount of colour touches etc then name, batch and label for you to look through and select which ones you’ll use then backup onto DVD. Lightroom is a cut down version of the above software.

Post by **Doombrain** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:34 am

reefsurfer wrote:http://www.funmansion.com/templates/view.php?go=item&n=2929

Whoa. Medium format pictures of everyday life that have been over saturated to hell. I’m (un)impressed.

Post by **Eraser** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:42 am

Doombrain wrote:
Eraser wrote:
dzjepp wrote:Is it just a free version of photoshop with less features?
At my work we're in fact looking at this. Management recently cracked down on illegal Photoshop installs and everyone without a license had to remove Photoshop (pretty much everyone had it installed and there are only a few licenses for the people that really need it).

Since a lot of people do sporadically need a decent image editing application they said Gimp was a good alternative, but within a few nanoseconds it turned out Gimp is shit.

So is there a good free alternative to Photoshop? Don't need anything as fancy as Photoshop, but at least something that supports (blending of) layers, transparancy and a good amount of file formats. Currently we're hinging towards getting a decent number of Paint Shop Pro licenses (as they cost only the fraction of a Photoshop license) but so far management doesn't really seem to budge.
It's not image editing software so i wouldn't go running to the bosses just yet.

The prime idea behind software like this is if you do a weeks shooting in the same studio with the same white balance, lights, etc you’ll no doubt have 5 to 9 gig of images that need screening. With this kind of software you can set a workflow which will automatically apply your custom levels, saturation and a whole other amount of colour touches etc then name, batch and label for you to look through and select which ones you’ll use then backup onto DVD. Lightroom is a cut down version of the above software.

Yeah I already understood that. Wasn't implying I thought Adobe Lightroom would be an alternative. I was just wondering if there's an alternative that isn't as crappy as Gimp. Too bad on most of the intarweb Gimp is hailed as the one and only (free) Photoshop alternative

Post by **MKJ** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:45 am

theres an Photoshop Lite edition isnt there? or did they phase that out

Post by **Dave** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:46 am

PS Elements

Post by **Doombrain** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:49 am

Dave wrote:PS Elements

ZING

Post by **Eraser** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:02 am

80 dollar per license
for less than that we can get paint shop pro licenses as well.

Post by **Doombrain** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:14 am

can't you get some kind of deal? Adobe are really good like that, and stuff.

I don't really care because i've got my Honesty Build serial numbers :P

Post by **Dave** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:21 am

If those are like MS Select VLKs, I got mine too

Post by **Doombrain** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:27 am

the same

Post by **Eraser** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:20 pm

Doombrain wrote:can't you get some kind of deal? Adobe are really good like that, and stuff.

Maybe, but we need no more than 10 - 12 licenses here. I doubt that's interesting enough for Adobe to cut us a deal.

Post by **Nightshade** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:43 pm

Dave wrote:If those are like MS Select VLKs, I got mine too

Nerd bragging. Sad. Going to start squawking about how many Dr. Who episodes you have on Betamax next?

Post by **4days** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:17 pm

aren't there old versions of paintshop pro you can get for free now?

Post by **Dave** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:25 pm

What the hell is Betamax?

Post by **MKJ** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:26 pm

what?
shame on you dave
youre not 16 are you? :P

Post by **Dave** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:30 pm

MKJ wrote:what?
shame on you dave
youre not 16 are you? :P

No, but I left analog in the past where it belongs to die...

Post by **Foo** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:43 pm

Eraser wrote:
Doombrain wrote:can't you get some kind of deal? Adobe are really good like that, and stuff.
Maybe, but we need no more than 10 - 12 licenses here. I doubt that's interesting enough for Adobe to cut us a deal.

Go for old versions of PSP, like v6 or 7. I've seen them at retail for 20 quid a pop in bargain bins.

PSP was a mature application even in those earlier versions. The changes between PSP 6 and the latest (11?) aren't that big and likely wont impact what your 10-12 'regular' users want to do.

EDIT: And the gimp's alright, but lacks UI design to adequatly compliment its power.