Saw "Jarhead"

Post by **feedback** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:26 am

Good movie, focuses on the people, not action or combat. Still entertaining. Discuss?

Post by **Tsakali_** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 8:31 am

nothing that hasn't been done before, unfortunately

it didn't teach me anything I didn't get from other war movies before it, nothing worth sparking new thaught provoking discussion.

SOS just different setting

Post by **MKJ** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:03 am

discuss? how about posting it in the "last movie you saw" thread. homo

Post by **bitWISE** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:05 am

I'd like to see that.

Post by **feedback** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:18 am

MKJ wrote:discuss? how about posting it in the "last movie you saw" thread. homo

I'm a busy man, I don't have the time for that kind of fucking garbage you asshole.

Post by **feedback** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:19 am

Tsakali_ wrote:nothing that hasn't been done before, unfortunately

it didn't teach me anything I didn't get from other war movies before it, nothing worth sparking new thaught provoking discussion.

SOS just different setting

It's based off of a book written by a marine, so it's a little different

Post by **MKJ** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:25 am

feedback wrote:
MKJ wrote:discuss? how about posting it in the "last movie you saw" thread. homo
I'm a busy man, I don't have the time for that kind of fucking garbage you asshole.

come and suck my cock, jew

Post by **Doombrain** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:09 am

I want to see it but i'm guessing it's just going to be another yanks save the day, whooping and yehaa film.

Post by **MKJ** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:18 am

the trailer made me suspect otherwise actually

but it cant be good, see theres a golden rule in the movie-industry, and thats: the longer the trailer, the worse the movie is.
this trailer was quite if not too long

hoowa

Post by **dzjepp** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 1:38 pm

It's a mix of three kings and full metal jacket. Yeah it does try and focus on da people a lot but it still is a yanks save the day with a bunch of sterotypical soldiers etc.

Post by **SplishSplash** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 2:43 pm

BORING

The message of this movie is: Hey, war is pretty boring 95% of the time.

To properly convey this message, they made 95% of the movie extremely boring.

Post by **prince1000** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:07 pm

i don't think there's enough mainstream knowledge of the persian gulf conflict/war/weekend for it to have the impact of say any vietnam film.

or it was just a shitty movie...

Post by **duffman91** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:23 pm

Doombrain wrote:I want to see it but i'm guessing it's just going to be another yanks save the day, whooping and yehaa film.

Not at all. It focuses on the psychological conflict people go through while at war.

I recommend it, and jake gyllenhaal is an awesome actor.

Post by **duffman91** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:24 pm

prince1000 wrote:i don't think there's enough mainstream knowledge of the persian gulf conflict/war/weekend for it to have the impact of say any vietnam film.

or it was just a shitty movie...

True, this movie went more for the "Full Metal Jacket" point of view (war sucks) more so than a "Platoon" point of view(war is hell).

Post by **bitWISE** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:17 pm

dzjepp wrote:It's a mix of three kings and full metal jacket. Yeah it does try and focus on da people a lot but it still is a yanks save the day with a bunch of sterotypical soldiers etc.

Does it have any ass-maps?

Post by **Tormentius** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:28 pm

It was an interesting movie. IMO, its a tough one to rate.

Post by **prince1000** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 9:42 pm

Tormentius wrote:It was an interesting movie. IMO, its a tough one to rate.

yeah that's pretty much how i felt. i couldn't tell if it wasn't philosophical enough for a non-marine to empathise with or if there was just something lacking altogether.

the apocalypse now scene i thought was totally ironic and maybe wherein the point of the movie lies, which is what i said before about how our reasons for being in the middle east were not as easily visible to the public like fighting communism or nazis in previous battles, though that is what washington would have like us to believe. even the men fighting the gulf war were not briefed as to why they were there and felt no connection to anything other than their unit and guns; ie the marine corp's mantra since the beginning but so blurred by freedom in peacetime and the subversive use of military action in the last 30+ years.

or not lol

Post by **andyman** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 10:09 pm

prince1000 wrote:i don't think there's enough mainstream knowledge of the persian gulf conflict/war/weekend for it to have the impact of say any vietnam film.

or it was just a shitty movie...

true....i could relate to this movie, and nothing slipped by when i watched it. Most times when i was laughing all over the place, people around me had a confused look on their face wondering what was going on.

i guess you just gotta live it to fully get it

Post by **seremtan** » Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:15 pm

dzjepp wrote:It's a mix of three kings and full metal jacket. Yeah it does try and focus on da people a lot but it still is a yanks save the day with a bunch of sterotypical soldiers etc.

does it have any of the following lines of dialogue in it:

1. "we're going in hot!"
2. "lock 'n' load!"
3. "game time!"
4. "let's roll!"

?

Post by **prince1000** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:18 am

well there's literally no battle scenes.

Post by **MKJ** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:12 am

it does have a lot of "hoowaa" though, and the occasional "booya"

Post by **Turbine** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:03 pm

Field Strip Time!

Post by **feedback** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:38 am

I was laughing so hard at that part my girlfriend got mad (because she thinks I'm gay)

Post by **andyman** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 1:45 am

feedback wrote:I was laughing so hard at that part my girlfriend got mad (because she thinks I'm gay)

you should have stripped for her

Post by **simple** » Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:45 pm

I found the movie to be refreshing.

Military has a tendency to reshape identify. It changes people on a sociological level. If you spent a hole career training on a skill; and that skill is never used how dose that effect some one?

What about how the war was fought? Was it a satisfactory way to fight? If so, how has war changed? Will his job slowly disappear? Would it have ben more efficient to use sniping over bombing? Would the loss of life been less or more?

What about his best friend; would it have been better if he had died while on tour? His family would have received financial support. Would they have been better able to understand his death.

What about choosing to kill some one; and following through. How dose that effect some one? Will he be able to successfully re-entergrate him self into public society?