So...anyone here traded the PSP for DS yet?

Post by **tnf** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:15 am

I know Jackal bought the DS instead of the PSP...I'm thinking of selling the PSP and using the $$$ to pick up a DS + some games.
Make the decision for me. I'm too stressed lately to make decisions myself.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:16 am

why are you stressed? gonna be a dad?

Post by **tnf** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:17 am

No. Maybe stressed isn't the right word. But a parent wants to sue the school and my name is mentioned in the reason.

And no, folks, its not that. I'm married and intend to remain so.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:19 am

tnf wrote:No. Maybe stressed isn't the right word. But a parent wants to sue the school and my name is mentioned in the reason.

And no, folks, its not that. I'm married and intend to remain so.

damn that's fucked up

i'm sure you'd impress any judge way more than some dumb ass pimple-faced kid.

Post by **tnf** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:22 am

Oh it won't go that far...just an angry parent venting to the administration about a non-issue.

Post by **FragaGeddon** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:58 am

Are you having sex with one of your students?

Post by **o'dium** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:49 am

I have the ca$h so i have both. But the DS by far has given me the most "smiles". Mario 64 is amazing, Mario Kart is the best dam ngame on the planet, and some of the new games coming out just look amazing.

I honestly hand on heart want something GOOD ofr me PSP that looks okish, but runs smooth and plays great. But i've been waiting since day one...

Post by **Jackal** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:09 pm

I've been loving the shit out of my DS. Castlevania is fucking awesome, picture old school metroid but with demons. Mario Kart is good too, if not a bit too easy. I'm extremely happy with my choice.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:17 pm

see, this is the lame shit we moderate...simple, really.

Post by **MKJ** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:19 pm

castlevania has always been awesome (save for the 3d titles), that has nothing to do with the DS

i barely use my ds.. no idea why actually. i mean the stylus is fun for a while but the novelty wears off quickly. although Anothe Code makes great use of it for a change

Post by **o'dium** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:22 pm

MKJ wrote:castlevania has always been awesome (save for the 3d titles), that has nothing to do with the DS

i barely use my ds.. no idea why actually. i mean the stylus is fun for a while but the novelty wears off quickly. although Anothe Code makes great use of it for a change

Stylus? Whats that, I ahven't used that in, oh, the last year?

Come on, use your finger sir. Plus most games dont even bother. Its nice for menu work, but hell, the games dont really use it. I mean mario kart ONLY uses it for switching maps? And Mario 64 only uses it for the camera. Its not that vital.

And Jackal, Mario Kart to easy? Try 150CC on the retro cup, and come back and say that same thing

Post by **Jackal** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:25 pm

o'dium wrote:
MKJ wrote:castlevania has always been awesome (save for the 3d titles), that has nothing to do with the DS

i barely use my ds.. no idea why actually. i mean the stylus is fun for a while but the novelty wears off quickly. although Anothe Code makes great use of it for a change
Stylus? Whats that, I ahven't used that in, oh, the last year?

Come on, use your finger sir. Plus most games dont even bother. Its nice for menu work, but hell, the games dont really use it. I mean mario kart ONLY uses it for switching maps? And Mario 64 only uses it for the camera. Its not that vital.

And Jackal, Mario Kart to easy? Try 150CC on the retro cup, and come back and say that same thing

I have. I've beaten every aspect of the game in under 5 days. Gold in everything, everything unlocked.

Post by **MKJ** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:26 pm

yea thats my point. its kinda like a gimmick, yet every game insists on using it. sure there are games that hardly use it, like The Urbz (which is good), but then there are those games like TouchnGo and PacPix which is stylus-only. and the best art is, they conjured up one game-element to use it for and base an entire game on that. that kinda sucks.

im nto saying the stylus is a bad idea, its great for some games. its just that most games tend to concentrate a bit too much on that thing :S

Post by **o'dium** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:42 pm

No i agree. Somtimes it IS just annoying, but for the most part its not needed to have fun or play the game. Pac Pix is about drawing so of course the stylus is used (I got it for the missus, she loves the DS). Its used for all sorts of things in Nintendogs.

Its just some feel it needs to be tacked on anyways. Like for turning in ridge racer (Not NEEDED, but you can do) and stuff like that just makes it awful.

It mario Kart, its used for making your logo for online play, and for changing he map... Thats it. In the new Mario Bros, its used for selecting items, and .... Well... Thats it.

I dunno, its not the SYSTEM that makes the games good, they just ARE better. The PSP is by far capable of the kind of fun games the DS has, it just keeps on failing...The problem is, to many devs thing its a PS2, and insist on giving games PS2 level graphics, or at least around abouts. Its more like a PSOne with filtering, so not only do the games PLAY bad, but they often have really awful frame rates which take away any remaining fun factor.

I WISH somebody would just release a FUN game for a handheld. Handhelds are about going out, playing a lap on Mario kart for a few mins, grabbing a star, saving and quiting etc. They arn't about a 25minute long mission that cant be done anyways because of fiddly controls and a dpad that cant do diagonals... (Which the gameboy 20 years ago could do

)

The game im most looking forward to on psp? WORMS. YEAH. WORMS. Because im glad its not that god awul 3D version, and that they stuck to classic 2d. Ill buy that. But random 3d game with 5FPS? No thanks

Post by **o'dium** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:43 pm

Oh and Jackal, you got some skills man if you can do it easy

I'm good but even i have trouble on the 150's

Post by **Dave** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:44 pm

even you?!

Post by **o'dium** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:47 pm

Dave wrote:even you?!

Yeah even me. Would you believe?

Post by **plained** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:50 pm

this isnt a flame tn but if it was a non-issue it would be, but its not , its an issue important to these people , accept it or not, its fact.

Post by **Eraser** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:21 pm

MKJ wrote:i barely use my ds.. no idea why actually. i mean the stylus is fun for a while but the novelty wears off quickly. although Anothe Code makes great use of it for a change

Well, the problem with the stylus is that those games that don't really need it try to incorporate it in some way just for it to be there. Mario Kart doesn't even try to get the stylus into things. Every function in the game can be accessed through buttons and I navigate the menus with the d-pad.

However, games that were designed starting off with the DS stylus concept in mind really can't go without it. Games like Wario Ware Touched and Meteos would be impossible without the stylus. Some games make playing with the stylus just a bit easier.

Mario 64 DS can't be done without an analogue input method. Since there's no analogue stick, the stylus is the next best thing, and to be honest, after a short while it feels just as natural as an analogue stick.

Advance Wars was perfectly well playable on the GBA, but having the stylus as input method makes gameplay just a bit more smooth on the DS.

IMO, the stylus isn't a gimmick. However, by a lot of developers it's still approached and used as such. In a game like Meteos the stylus isn't a gimmick at all. It's not even really a novelty as such. It's just that Meteos can't be done without a stylus (well yea, a Mouse would work but that can't be done on a handheld).

Asking someone to play a PC FPS without a mouse seems like a really odd request. In the same way, asking someone to play Meteos without stylus is just as odd.

edit:
and I think developers are required to implement stylus use in one way or another. There isn't a single DS game out there that I can think of that doesn't use the stylus at all. And in a large number of games the stylus use is really a tacky addition that could easily be left out.

In Nanostray, weapon selection is done through the touch screen, which is horrible and distracting and it can't be done with a button (while 2 buttons are unused in the game)

NFS: Underground 2 has three stupid minigames which require the stylus, nothing more.

Castlevania uses the stylus for drawing symbols, which is okay-ish, but feels like an "oh we need to use the stylus for something" afterthought as well

Apart from menu interaction, Mario Kart uses the touch screen to switch from close up map to overview map, which can be done through a button as well. Drawing your logo is easier with d-pad and A button as well, as the stylus isn't accurate enough (or my hand isn't steady enough

)

I could go on like that for a long time.
It's definitely not the stylus that makes it a great system.

Post by **Eraser** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:25 pm

o'dium wrote:Oh and Jackal, you got some skills man if you can do it easy I'm good but even i have trouble on the 150's

Mario Kart isn't really hard when playing single player. The best fun is to be had playing against others. Nintendo WFC is great, but best is still through local WiFi when you can scream at your opponents

Post by **MKJ** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:58 pm

in reply to your long post:

that is exactly my point. most games just have it "because its there". other games have too much of it "because its there". very few have a good balance between the two

Post by **tnf** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:48 pm

plained wrote:this isnt a flame tn but if it was a non-issue it would be, but its not , its an issue important to these people , accept it or not, its fact.

its a non-issue in terms of any sort of 'lawsuit'. its an issue in that a kid is placed in the wrong class - he doesn't have the requisite skills to keep up and his father has not allowed him to get after school tutoring and refuses to bring him to school early for extra help - yet he wants to sue us for not 'accomodating' his needs. So, the fact is there is no issue in tems of the lawsuit ranting.

Post by **Chupacabra** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:29 am

weird. hopefully whatever comes out of it, the kid will get whatever he needs academically.

Post by **primaltheory** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:41 am

tnf wrote:I know Jackal bought the DS instead of the PSP...I'm thinking of selling the PSP and using the $$$ to pick up a DS + some games.
Make the decision for me. I'm too stressed lately to make decisions myself.

PSP Audio broke, didn't care, traded it in for full price of purchase, bought a red ds, mario kart, animal crossing, then got castlevania and advance wars

Psp is nice, but it has lame games, don't go all ZOMG GTA ZOMG SOCOM...they are just small versions of much better games. DS Games are continuations of stories and such, but they are made with the DS in mind, not just a "zomg make it small" game. Castlevania DS is by far the best castlevania i've ever played.

Post by **Fury** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:34 am

odium man it's not that hard, only thing that took some time was gold starring the 150cc (mirror was actually easier

)

racer: Wario
Kart: shooting star

So...anyone here traded the PSP for DS yet?

So...anyone here traded the PSP for DS yet?

Re: So...anyone here traded the PSP for DS yet?