Question for people in the video game industry

Post by **HateFactor** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:06 pm

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Post by **primaltheory** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:18 pm

Grudge wrote:Console fanboys keep forgetting that they also need a $1000 HDTV in addition to their $400 console to be able to compete with an "expensive" PC when it comes to image quality.

I play quake 4 on the same 60 inch sony grand wega that i play my 360 on

Post by **eepberries** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:31 pm

I really hate single player games where you're forced to fight with team-mates. That's one of my major grips with Quake 4, though there are many others. It pisses me off because Quake 2 was not aboutsquad action at all, yet they forced it into Quake 4 because it's LOL TEH NEW WAVE OF GAMING.

Post by **Foo** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:32 pm

tnf wrote:
Foo wrote:In case you hadn't noticed, there's a whole world beyond America.

Battlefield Vietnam seemed to go down okay, anyway.
Me? I'm talking about historical wars in general.

Not you. I wub u.

Post by **tnf** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:33 pm

primaltheory wrote:
Grudge wrote:Console fanboys keep forgetting that they also need a $1000 HDTV in addition to their $400 console to be able to compete with an "expensive" PC when it comes to image quality.
I play quake 4 on the same 60 inch sony grand wega that i play my 360 on

Yea, so that pretty much invalidates your argument about the console being able to put performance as good or better than a $1200 PC. No HDTV - no real competition in graphics.

Post by **tnf** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:34 pm

eepberries wrote:I really hate single player games where you're forced to fight with team-mates. That's one of my major grips with Quake 4, though there are many others. It pisses me off because Quake 2 was not aboutsquad action at all, yet they forced it into Quake 4 because it's LOL TEH NEW WAVE OF GAMING.

I think its funny that they can't stop advertising squad based combat as something amazing and new... "FIGHT ALONGSIDE YOUR AI-BASED SQUADMATES!! WATCH THEM TAKE FORMATIONS, PEEK AROUND CORNERS, THROW GRENADES, SHOOT THE ENEMY, AND RUN INTO DOORS AND STAND AROUND WHILE A GRENADE SITS A FOOT AWAY FROM THEM!!! GROUNDBREAKING!"

Post by **MKJ** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:35 pm

and as we all know, graphics are what makes a platform superiour !

Post by **tnf** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:39 pm

MKJ wrote:and as we all know, graphics are what makes a platform superiour !

Yea, I spent more time on teh original nintendo than on any system since then.

I'll admit that I am a technophile - I like to have the latest technology just for the sake of having it. I also will buy every console - because I am not a 'fan' of any one in particular. If I am a fanboy, its a fanboy of good games...and there will be good games for every console...

Post by **eepberries** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:40 pm

The truth is though that I don't play games to watch my squad mates do the fighting for me, I play games to be fucking Rambo. I hate this squad based shit

Post by **MKJ** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:42 pm

exactly the same with me. i do have all the fancy stuff and all - whats the point of having a rig that can output 5.1 sound when you dont have a receiver?
but like what happened the other day - the missus wanted to see a movie that i didnt want to see so i played GTA:SA on the smallscreen in the bedroom. and i had just as much fun as i normally would have

Post by **plained** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:43 pm

the low res of tv and the way its displayed hides flaws alot better than on a comp.

jus sayin

Post by **eepberries** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:44 pm

Truth

Post by **tnf** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 5:46 pm

plained wrote:the low res of tv and the way its displayed hides flaws alot better than on a comp.

jus sayin

Yea, its kind of a paradox...the sharper the resolution, the more apparent jaggies and other imperfections are...

but if the graphics are really sharp themselves and hi-resolution, you miss out on some of the details without the hi-resolution display...

Post by **IW Coriolis** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:56 pm

I remember there was one game that was an alternate history where WW1 never stopped, but that's the closest I can think of. Historical settings besides WW2 just don't work as well in an FPS game. WW2 is the most global conflict with clear "good guys" and "bad guys" that both had a broad and interesting arsenal that was fairly balanced between the two sides. Before WW2, the weapons just aren't interesting. After WW2, the conflicts aren't interesting and/or the environments aren't fun.

I doubt there will ever be a good historical FPS game that isn't set in WW2, at least not in the near future. However, people seem to be growing tired of the WW2 games, so I expect even those will start to disappear as well.

Post by **HateFactor** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:16 pm

eepberries wrote:I really hate single player games where you're forced to fight with team-mates. That's one of my major grips with Quake 4, though there are many others. It pisses me off because Quake 2 was not aboutsquad action at all, yet they forced it into Quake 4 because it's LOL TEH NEW WAVE OF GAMING.

Actually it seems Quake 2 was intended to have squad based portions throughout it (e.g. during the prison levels, etc). There are remnants of such code within the source, and I remember there was a mod that came out years ago which enabled it to some degree. :icon26:

Post by **eepberries** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:20 pm

HateFactor wrote:
eepberries wrote:I really hate single player games where you're forced to fight with team-mates. That's one of my major grips with Quake 4, though there are many others. It pisses me off because Quake 2 was not aboutsquad action at all, yet they forced it into Quake 4 because it's LOL TEH NEW WAVE OF GAMING.
Actually it seems Quake 2 was intended to have squad based portions throughout it (e.g. during the prison levels, etc). There are remnants of such code within the source, and I remember there was a mod that came out years ago which enabled it to some degree. :icon26:

Well even if it was supposed to have that, it didn't, and I'm glad it didn't.

Post by **o'dium** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:28 pm

Yeah it was supposed to have buddies.

But it was also supposed to havea BFG. A green, BFG. Oh wait...