Latest nonense from Iranian president

[MidnightQ4]

"western" music banned on Iranian airwaves.

"a fervent Islamic faith has shaped his entire life"

-Nightline talking about the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

"he's a religious zealout who believes he was destined by god todeliver Iran into a new nuclear age"

he said he say a green ora of light around himself and nobody blinked when he spoke at the UN.


The broadcast was very obviously calling him out as an unstable weirdo looking to build nuclear weapons.

[MKJ]

his country should be invaded at once, for those people need to be liberated by the wonder that is democracy

[Ryoki]

Yes, obviously the only alternative is to wait until he nukes everyone.

[S@M]

thanks mkj, Ryoki.....sorted!

[seremtan]

"western" music banned on Iranian airwaves.

"a fervent Islamic faith has shaped his entire life"

-Nightline talking about the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

"he's a religious zealout who believes he was destined by god todeliver Iran into a new nuclear age"

he said he say a green ora of light around himself and nobody blinked when he spoke at the UN.


The broadcast was very obviously calling him out as an unstable weirdo looking to build nuclear weapons.

good to see nightline beating the drums of war instead of wasting time with all that liberal-y journalism crap :icon14: i mean, some liberal cunt would have distracted people by reminding them that bush told palestinians that god told him to attack iraq, or pointed out that the US already has 20,000 nukes and is making more, or produced some dullwitted crap about how we were told nuclear deterrence worked during the cold war and now 'all of a sudden' it doesn't

fucking liberals eh

[Nightshade]

Why the hell haven't we liberated Iran, Syria, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia yet? Those godless heathens have been doing the same shit for years.

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

This is a request to Kofi Annan, Secretary General of the UN that he should instigate an investigation into the claims listed in the attachment to this memorandum. It is also jointly addressed to Lord Goldsmith the Attorney General of the UK. The UK is a High Contracting Party and Signatory to The Geneva and Hague Conventions and Protocols and The Nuremberg Charter of 1945, and of The Rome Statute of The International Criminal Court. It is thus appropriate that The Attorney General should investigate what appear to be grave breaches of these Conventions and Protocols, and of UN General Assembly Resolution No 95, before and during the Iraq War 2003 - 2005.

We are concerned that, should these breaches be established, those responsible should be held to account. This is urgent. It appears that many breaches, even now, are continuing to take place.

We allege that the breaches committed by the UK Government and the USA in coalition partnership during the period 2002 - 2005 outlined as a selection in summary are as follows:-

1 Crimes Against Peace: Planning and Conducting an Aggressive War using deceit, including deliberately falsifying reports to arouse passion in support of this war .

2 Failure to ensure public order and safety by disbanding the army and police of Iraq, without properly replacing those functions.

3 Extensive destruction of service infrastructure, including drinking water, sewage systems, telephones and electricity supply, with grave consequences to the inhabitants of Iraq, especially in hospitals.

4 Deliberate damage to hospitals and medical facilities and personnel including the shooting up of Red Crescent ambulances, and prevention of movement of ambulances.

5 Failure to prohibit looting and arson resulting in the despoliation and pillage of museums, libraries, archaeological sites, hospitals, administrative buildings and state records.

6 Failure to respect cultural property including the use of the Babylon archaeological site as a military camp.

7 Economic exploitation of occupied territories by orders of The Provisional Coalition Administration to the benefit of foreign interests, including the use of Production Sharing Agreements, and IMF rules, even
though warnings were made by the Attorney General that these may be construed as contrary to International Law.

8 Seizing botanical assets by Provisional Coalition Administration Order 81, which ends the prohibition of private ownership of biological resources, and introduces foreign monopoly rights over seeds.

9 Political persecution by initially sacking all Baath Party members, thereby very severely reducing the administrative and professional class who had been obliged to be members.

10 Religious persecution: US Defence Secretary memo of 2 December 2002 sanctioned the use of religious humiliation against detainees.

11 Use of cable ties as a restraint to detainees' wrists causing injury and unnecessary suffering .

12 Use of hooding detainees, wilfully causing mental suffering, especially when used for prolonged periods, or when combined with assault.

13 Use of dogs as a means of obtaining information authorised by US Defence Secretary memo of 2 Dec 2002.

14 Forcing detainees to stand for many hours as a means of obtaining information authorised by US Defence Secretary memo of 2 December 2002, and practised at Abhu Ghraib and other US prisons.

15 Sexual and bodily humiliation of detainees, including rapes, and stripping naked for long periods.

16 Aggressive patrolling with indiscriminate mass arrests of males, including 14 year olds, indiscriminate destruction of property, and invasion of women's' quarters contrary to tenets of the Koran.

17 Killing and wounding treacherously by indiscriminate shooting at check points, strafing of groups of obvious civilians, and disproportionate use of force in residential areas.

18 Degrading treatment of detainees by marking foreheads and bodies with indelible marker pens as a means of identification and control.

19 Use of cluster bombs on grounds of military expediency. As well as being munitions causing random unnecessary suffering by steel spicules, incendiary and depleted uranium bomblets, a large number don't explode, effectively becoming land mines.

20 Use of depleted uranium shells, on the grounds of military expediency, causing a very long term legacy of radioactive damage to the environment, cancers and birth defects.

21 Use of white phosphorous (WP) chemical munitions.

22 Collective penalties in Fallujah during the first assault of April 2004 when 1,000 Iraqis including 600 women and children were killed.

23 Evacuation of Fallujah, ( a city nearly the size of Cardiff) in preparation for a second disproportionate assault in November 2004, which employed the use of starvation and thirst on an entire population, targeting of hospitals, medical staff and ambulances, indiscriminate shooting of non combatants and destruction of private and state property

24 Failure to keep a proper record of POW names and locations.

25 Failure to treat POWs humanely, especially those held in the open in the sun.

26 Abolition of Habeas Corpus: holding an estimated 30,000 prisoners without charge or trial over an indefinite period:

27 Failure to record Iraqi deaths and injuries with consequent failure to determine proportionality or medical requirements of survivors. Also causing unnecessary suffering to relatives of the deceased.

28 Unilaterally holding that the Geneva Conventions do not apply to certain actions, especially to the use of private security contractors, and mercenaries and to the detention of certain types of enemy combatants.

EVIDENCE
Much of the evidence for these actions, which we believe are contrary to International Law, are now in the public domain: for instance: The Secret memo from David Manning to The Prime Minister dated 14 March 2002, The Confidential and Personal memo from The British Ambassador to the USA to the Prime Minister dated 18 March 2002. Clare Short's book "Honourable Deception?" Greg Dyke's "Inside Story", Robert Fisk's " The Great War for Civilisation", President Chirac's interview of 10 March 2003, Hansard, the British Museum sponsored book on the looting of Iraq's National Museum and use of Babylon as a US base, the report on the destruction of "Iraqi Hospitals Ailing Under Occupation" by Dahr Jamail, Lee Gordon's eye witness account in 'Camden New Journal' of the shooting up of ambulances in Fallujah, The Peacerights Report of the Inquiry into the alleged Commission of War Crimes by Coalition Forces in The Iraq War During 2003 ", The Rumsfeld memo of 2 December 2003, gun film footage of the F16 strike against civilians in Fallujah, photographs of mistreatment of POWs at Abhu Ghraib.
More detailed evidence for all these atrocities will be provided by us if so required.

Signed.....................................Tony Benn, 7th December 2005

What are those crazies up to now? gosh o golly

[seremtan]

"the law is like a spider's web: strong enough to restrain the weak, too weak to restrain the strong."

[Hannibal]

"Mayonnaise makes the sandwich."


Shame....the Iranian everyman used to dig the West....before the dark times, before the EMPIRE.

[jester!]

"the law is like a spider's web: strong enough to restrain the weak, too weak to restrain the strong."

who said that?

[MidnightQ4]

"Mayonnaise makes the sandwich."


Shame....the Iranian everyman used to dig the West....before the dark times, before the EMPIRE.

They still do. All of the younger generation has been embracing western culture and playing and attending concerts with "pop" music. But now the new president is squashing all the fun by banning this kind of fun and entertainment.

[seremtan]

some old greek guy whose name i can't remember

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

"Mayonnaise makes the sandwich."


Shame....the Iranian everyman used to dig the West....before the dark times, before the EMPIRE.

They still do. All of the younger generation has been embracing western culture and playing and attending concerts with "pop" music. But now the new president is squashing all the fun by banning this kind of fun and entertainment.

clearly we should bomb their water treatment facilities

[tnf]

we're currently run by a religious zealot who believes he was destined by god to do all sorts of shit too, unfortunately.

[tnf]

"Mayonnaise makes the sandwich."


Shame....the Iranian everyman used to dig the West....before the dark times, before the EMPIRE.

They still do. All of the younger generation has been embracing western culture and playing and attending concerts with "pop" music. But now the new president is squashing all the fun by banning this kind of fun and entertainment.

clearly we should bomb their water treatment facilities

I think poisoning the facilities would be less messy.

[Nightshade]

"Mayonnaise makes the sandwich."


Shame....the Iranian everyman used to dig the West....before the dark times, before the EMPIRE.

They still do. All of the younger generation has been embracing western culture and playing and attending concerts with "pop" music. But now the new president is squashing all the fun by banning this kind of fun and entertainment.

All of 'em, huh? How mant Iranian friends to you have that give you this information on a regular basis?

[prince1000]

"Mayonnaise makes the sandwich."


Shame....the Iranian everyman used to dig the West....before the dark times, before the EMPIRE.

They still do. All of the younger generation has been embracing western culture and playing and attending concerts with "pop" music. But now the new president is squashing all the fun by banning this kind of fun and entertainment.

wtf? there is plenty of western culture that plenty of american's think is abhorrent. what fucking planet do you actually live on? what stirs your drink? i need info......

[Hannibal]

Interesting piece. BTW, the only reason I said what I said is because I have several Iranian grad student friends who've expressed this view (the big caveat being they believe Bush is retarded). If only Alexander hadn't died so young.

http://meria.idc.ac.il/journal/2004/issue1/jv8n1a2.html

[MKJ]

we're currently run by a religious zealot who believes he was destined by god to do all sorts of shit too, unfortunately.

touche
the difference is clear though - our zealot is on our side and therefore right

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

we're currently run by a religious zealot who believes he was destined by god to do all sorts of shit too, unfortunately.

touche
the difference is clear though - our zealot is on our side and therefore right

Without saying so flat-out, West Virginia�s senior Democratic senator, Robert Byrd, this week set forth the case for impeachment:

�The President claims that these powers are within his role as Commander in Chief,� Byrd said in a December 19 statement. �Make no mistake, the powers granted to the Commander in Chief are specifically those as head of the Armed Forces. These warrantless searches are conducted not against a foreign power, but against unsuspecting and unknowing American citizens. They are conducted against individuals living on American soil, not in Iraq or Afghanistan. There is nothing within the powers granted in the Commander in Chief clause that grants the President the ability to conduct clandestine surveillance of American civilians. We must not allow such groundless, foolish claims to stand.

�The President claims a boundless authority through the resolution that authorized the war on those who perpetrated the September 11th attacks. But that resolution does not give the President unchecked power to spy on our own people. That resolution does not give the Administration the power to create covert prisons for secret prisoners. That resolution does not authorize the torture of prisoners to extract information from them. That resolution does not authorize running black-hole secret prisons in foreign countries to get around U.S. law. That resolution does not give the President the powers reserved only for kings and potentates. ��

[tnf]

the december 19th issue of Newsweek actually had a pretty good article on bush and his isolated reality. Does a pretty good job of painting him as the pompous idiot that he is. I was surprised that a mainstream periodical hammered him as hard as this did.

[glossy]

We must thrust freedom into the country, until it accepts our pillar of justice as our flood spills through their streets drowns all notions of terror in our sea of democracy.

[seremtan]

you really worked hard on that metaphor, didn't you?