i think bush allowed eavesdropping story to kill patriot act

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i think bush allowed eavesdropping story to kill patriot act

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heres the deal...bush had nyt hold the eavesdropping story until the day before the patriot act in order to kill it...then he admits to illegal activity in order to protect the american ppl. hes going on and on about it now...press conference in an hour. he is gonna play up the whole "america is unsafe now that the pa wasn't renewed...blah blah blah...

everything is now in place...bush will pull off a terrorist attack on us soil and he will claim it would have never of happened if patriot act would have been renewed...now the public will go as far as accepting a police state or something really close...

enjoy ur free life now...before the 2006 election, america will be a completely different country... :(
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Post by 4days »

would like to say that your tinfoil hat must be a little too tight - but you're probably right.

hypothetical question:
if you were going to stage/allow a terrorist attack within north america, what target would you pick?
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JEW YORK SHITTY!!!
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Last I remember this was america not russia.
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NY is going to be serious enough already most likely. Go with somewhere in cali.
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i think it will be an inner city hick town with a low population density...like the pentagon renovation...
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jester! wrote:NY is going to be serious enough already most likely. Go with somewhere in cali.
no no, they tried that and Jack Bauer took it to 'em.
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http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/18/112010.shtml

Giuliani: U.S. in Peril without Patriot Act
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everything is in place...now all we can do is wait for the govt terror...
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Post by bitWISE »

I was pretty offended by his speach this morning. He did nothing short of saying those who don't support the Patriot Act where terrorists.
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Interesting read on the Bush dynasty
AT THIS point, the policy legacy of George Bush seems pretty well defined by three disparate disasters: Iraq in foreign affairs, Katrina in social welfare, corporate influence over tax, budget and regulatory decisions. As a short-term political consequence, we may avoid another dim-witted Bush in the White House. But what the Bush dynasty has done to presidential campaign science — the protocols by which Americans elect presidents in the modern era — amounts to a political legacy that can haunt the Republic for years to come.

....The next presidential campaign will show us whether these miscreant patricians have poisoned the well of the presidential campaign system. If so, there's no telling what kind of president we might get.
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R00k wrote:http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/18/112010.shtml

Giuliani: U.S. in Peril without Patriot Act
What a pile of alarmist crap.
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Keep the population scared and cowed, call into question their resolve, courage and patriotism (patriot act even :olo:) and it seems nearly anything can be accomplished. :dork:
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Post by GONNAFISTYA »

The one thing the press doesn't seem to catch onto is the fact that Bush constantly tries to remind the American public that he can protect them...and that he is protecting them.

That is the mantra - and propaganda - of the power hungry people in control. It justifies their control.

It is in all the history books. It is human nature.
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And is also a completely and obviously false statement to anyone with two braincells, such as myself.
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Obviously we need more ppl on the other side of the fence to post here. MidnightQ4 where are you!!!!
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look...bush still can't admit to a mistake...i laffed...

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/19/bush-mistake/
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Post by hate »

we need the patriot act

to protect our freedoms

from terrorrists
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If we don't give up our freedoms, then the terrorists will take them away!

We MUST reach them first!


If we give up our freedoms, the terrorists will have no more reason to hate us!

We can all live peacefully under the compassionate boot of government!
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GONNAFISTYA wrote:
R00k wrote:http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/18/112010.shtml

Giuliani: U.S. in Peril without Patriot Act
What a pile of alarmist crap.
lol, and a link to something about that cretin christopher hitchens

http://newsmax.com/archives/articles/20 ... 3550.shtml
A Vanity Fair contributing editor and vociferous advocate for the liberation of Iraq, Christopher Hitchens will square off against former U.N. inspector Scott Ritter, a vocal opponent of U.S. foreign policy regarding the Middle East.
i can't wait for the video of this :olo:

and here's where newsmax lays their cards on the table:
He has famously split from the Anglo-American political left on the issue of Iraq, becoming one of the strongest supporters of George Bush's vision of a democratic state.
"bush's vision of a democratic state" :olo:
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LOL! Supporting the idea of a democratic Iraq is one thing -- supporting "Bush's vision" of a democratic Iraq should be grounds to turn in your press pass.

Christopher "Hitchen to Bush's falling star" is a delusional sot to begin with. He declared for Bush early in the game, and I think he's having fits trying to reconcile his worldview with the weekly shit-filled twinkie bombs being dropped on him from the White House.

You can almost hear the tears of shattered delusions hitting his keyboard when you read his articles, obsessively flailing to explain why everything really is right on track, WHY WON'T ANYBODY LISTEN TO ME ANYMORE?!?!

:olo:
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Freakaloin wrote:look...bush still can't admit to a mistake...i laffed...

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/12/19/bush-mistake/
lol

Here's 100 Mistakes for the President to Choose From. :olo:
During a prime time press conference on April 13, President Bush was asked to name a mistake that he has made since taking office and what he has learned from it. Bush, who was unable to answer the question, admitted "maybe I'm not as quick on my feet as I should be in coming up with [a mistake]." But weeks later, Bush still hasn't answered the question. In the interest of assisting the President with this surprisingly difficult task we've compiled this list of 100 mistakes he has made since taking office:
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oh nos...nyt about to release more news on this...i hear they have several big stories over the next few weeks dealing with this stuff...

"NY Times considering another splash on FBI spying on
protesters, rallies in Tuesday editions.... Developing..."
http://rawstory.com/
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GONNAFISTYA wrote:lol

Here's 100 Mistakes for the President to Choose From. :olo:
hm, some of these mistakes are a little inventive
53. Abandoning the United States' traditional role as an evenhanded negotiator in the Middle East peace process.
how could bush have abandoned a role the US never had in the so-called "peace process"?
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