Anybody drink diet drinks?

Post by **R00k** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:01 pm

Might be interested in reading this.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medical ... wsid=34040#

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:03 pm

cocksuckers

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:04 pm

Oh shit. I drink about 2 litres of diet soda a day.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:05 pm

coke zero is the best...

Post by **tnf** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:20 pm

should say "can cause cancer in rats at levels currently approved for humans."

its definitely not good stuff though.

I drink 1 can of diet coke a day.

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:38 pm

tnf wrote:should say "can cause cancer in rats at levels currently approved for humans."

its definitely not good stuff though.

I drink 1 can of diet coke a day.

Oh right so youd have to drink enough of it to say..... give a blue whale cancer.

Post by **phantasmagoria** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:40 pm

surprise surprise.

Post by **Foo** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:44 pm

Mr.Magnetichead wrote:
tnf wrote:should say "can cause cancer in rats at levels currently approved for humans."

its definitely not good stuff though.

I drink 1 can of diet coke a day.

Oh right so youd have to drink enough of it to say..... give a blue whale cancer.

...I think you misunderstand.

The whole thing is a sliding scale. If the link is made here than consuming a large quantity of aspertine causes 20% more instances of cancer in mice (for example) then it follows that drinking a small amount will still increase your chance of developing a cancer proportionally.

It's not as if 100 cans of coke zero = 3 cancerous lumps per person :icon27:

Post by **R00k** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:49 pm

I've also read that some of the components that aspartame breaks down into in the human digestive system, actually have more potent effects on humans than they do on mice. Not sure how true that is, but I guess it's possible.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:52 pm

sodas are crap.

tea for teh win.

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:54 pm

Foo wrote:
Mr.Magnetichead wrote:
tnf wrote:should say "can cause cancer in rats at levels currently approved for humans."

its definitely not good stuff though.

I drink 1 can of diet coke a day.

Oh right so youd have to drink enough of it to say..... give a blue whale cancer.
...I think you misunderstand.

The whole thing is a sliding scale. If the link is made here than consuming a large quantity of aspertine causes 20% more instances of cancer in mice (for example) then it follows that drinking a small amount will still increase your chance of developing a cancer proportionally.

It's not as if 100 cans of coke zero = 3 cancerous lumps per person :icon27:

No but they said that a mouse would have to consume as much that is tolerable by a person to increase the chances of cancer.

So I would have to consume as much as is tolerable for say a blue whale before it increased my chances in a similar way.

Post by **R00k** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:56 pm

"Our study has shown that aspartame is a multipotential carcinogenic compound whose carcinogenic effects are also evident at a daily dose of 20 milligrams per kilogram of body weight (mg/kg), notably less than the current acceptable daily intake for humans," the authors write. Currently, the acceptable daily intake for humans is set at 50 mg/kg in the United States and 40 mg/kg in Europe.

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:11 pm

Yeah but how much is in soda? The bottle next to me has no details.

Post by **bitWISE** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:18 pm

Mr.Magnetichead wrote:
Foo wrote:
Mr.Magnetichead wrote: Oh right so youd have to drink enough of it to say..... give a blue whale cancer.
...I think you misunderstand.

The whole thing is a sliding scale. If the link is made here than consuming a large quantity of aspertine causes 20% more instances of cancer in mice (for example) then it follows that drinking a small amount will still increase your chance of developing a cancer proportionally.

It's not as if 100 cans of coke zero = 3 cancerous lumps per person :icon27:
No but they said that a mouse would have to consume as much that is tolerable by a person to increase the chances of cancer.

So I would have to consume as much as is tolerable for say a blue whale before it increased my chances in a similar way.

20mg per kg of body weight is a ratio. Yes, the actual amount of aspartame will be different but the ratio to your body weight would be the same...

Post by **Freakaloin** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:21 pm

coke zero has half the aspartame..

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:51 pm

Its been known for years. A doctor I know told me that aspartame is cancerogenic, so its not good for you, but the US used it for some foods for the soldiers and they got cancer.

Post by **seremtan** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:23 pm

fucking hell even my beloved splenda isn't entirely kosher:

http://www.janethull.com/newsletter/020 ... plenda.php

Post by **seremtan** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:24 pm

riddla wrote:Diet Rite Pure Zero uses all Splenda and isnt half bad.

Of course we'll probably find out soon that splenda causes kidney failure, etc.

see above post

Post by **SplishSplash** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:28 pm

I drink mineral water, what do I have to fear?

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:35 pm

Depends on the water brand.

Post by **hax103** » Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:17 pm

SplishSplash wrote:I drink mineral water, what do I have to fear?

Bottled water may contain many more bacterial colonies. It varies quite alot depending on the brand.

Here is a linky

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 090356.htm

Post by **R00k** » Fri Dec 02, 2005 9:25 pm

There are going to be court proceedings in New Mexico to hear evidence of aspartame's health effects.
http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/sepp/20 ... artame.htm

Post by **R00k** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 2:55 pm

MP calls for ban on 'unsafe' sweetener:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/food/Story/0, ... 34,00.html

Safety of artificial sweetener called into question by MP:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/food/Story/0, ... 71,00.html

Post by **Nightshade** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:41 pm

Why must everything I enjoy be bad for me? Just watch, next they'll say that shooting heroin into your eyeballs is bad.

Post by **Tormentius** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:03 pm

Never liked soda enough to bother with the diet versions tbh. If I'm going to drink something unhealthy then it needs to at least have some caffeine in it.