Ordered one of the new Walkman models for my Crimbo present.

Post by **Nightshade** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:04 pm

I think it's pretty ridiculous to write off an entire product line because a few people have had bad experiences. Sure, that new Walkman might be fantastic, but it doesn't mean that all iPods are pieces of shit.
I've heard a lot more people say positive things about iPods than not, and a lot of it just comes down to personal preference.
That said, I do dislike the fact that I have to use iTunes, although I think someone here has posted an alternative program that works. It's not so much that iTunes sucks, I've had no issues with it, I just don't like being forced to use ONLY what Apple says I can.
Meh, buy what you like.

Post by **Denz** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:12 pm

Mr.Magnetichead wrote:The ipod was not the first portable mp3 player wtf are you on?

Where the fuck do I say that the iPod was the first MP3 Player?
You fucking retard, now get of my fucking back you cocksucker!

I said and I quote: The iPod made MP3 Players Popular.

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:32 pm

Denz wrote:
Mr.Magnetichead wrote:The ipod was not the first portable mp3 player wtf are you on?
Where the fuck do I say that the iPod was the first MP3 Player?
You fucking retard, now get of my fucking back you cocksucker!

I said and I quote: The iPod made MP3 Players Popular.

Actually you said.

iPod did bring back the popularity of the Portable Music player with the ability to take your MP3's on the go.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:51 pm

Denz wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
Denz wrote:

We all know Sony was the first portable Music Player (1979)
I guess Apple brought back the popularity.
another no no
Sony did come up with the first portable music player, It played Casssette Tapes, because MP3's didn't even exist back then.

Denz wrote:iPod did bring back the popularity of the Portable Music player with the ability to take your MP3's on the go. Now I say this because everywhere you look there's an add for the iPod, even in movies that the iPod is seen, for instance "Blade Triniity". I didn't even know that Sony had another player until I read this forum.

The only reason why I own a iPod is because you can't help noticing all the advertizing out in the world, I just started to notice all the other MP3 players available out there because of my purchase. I think to myself, "I wonder if that one is better?" But I'm not going out to buy every MP3 player out there to see if that statement is correct. I'm happy with my purchase and no one is going to make me think otherwise. It works and it does what it said it would do. If it was a piece of crap then one of the other MP3 players out there would be first on my list of things to buy. I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be a sony.

er, "portable music players" and DAP's were popular before the iPod came around. Apple had a great design and lots of $ for adverts which pushed the iPod name. it didn't single-handedly make DAP's more popular, because it never WASN'T popular to have one. but, it did conquer the rest with an intuitive design and a simplistic, but elegant demeanor.

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 8:54 pm

In other words they pandered to the kinds of retards who are actually influenced by silhouettes dancing infront of bright colours.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 9:03 pm

Mr.Magnetichead wrote:In other words they pandered to the kinds of retards who are actually influenced by silhouettes dancing infront of bright colours.

i'm not going to argue with you about the advertising aspect, but i don't think you're giving the iPod proper credit in its current form. no, it's not perfect, but it's pretty darn close.

that said, i posted here about your Sony over two months ago and was praising what i saw. i think it's damn sexy.

Post by **inolen** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:26 pm

Mr.Magnetichead wrote: Hmm how about batteries that only last 16 months before you have to have to pay for them to be replaced which can cost nearly as much as the ipod itself?

Nice exageration. I think battery kits are like $50 from some stores (which does suck, but I haven't encountered that problem yet)

Mr.Magnetichead wrote: How about an ugly design that marks you out in a crowd as having an ipod and so makes you all the more targetable by muggers?

You might find it ugly, while I find it quite elegant. And speaking it sits in my pocket I don't know how in the hell a mugger is going to know it's an iPod.

Mr.Magnetichead wrote: How about numerous reports of cracked screens from drops as little as 6 inches?

Right. Have you never had a friend run over his cellphone and try to tell the company all he did was sit on it?

I highly doubt a 6inch drop busted the screen.

Mr.Magnetichead wrote: How about being treated like shit when you try and get repairs done by Apple staff?

I've never called the Apple Staff, but that sounds overly generalized.

Mr.Magnetichead wrote: How about actually having to own a fucking mac product?

An Apple product? I don't see the problem, they generally are of very high quality.

Mr.Magnetichead wrote: How about bloated software that hides the fact that it's running?

I just opened and closed iTunes and there are no new tasks running in my task manager. And all the other processes are certainly not related to iTunes.

Mr.Magnetichead wrote: How about it being a product aimed as soccer moms and trend whores?

Yea! Down with the man and all of his followers! Christ you little angsty faggot

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:34 pm

inolen wrote:
Mr.Magnetichead wrote: How about an ugly design that marks you out in a crowd as having an ipod and so makes you all the more targetable by muggers?
You might find it ugly, while I find it quite elegant. And speaking it sits in my pocket I don't know how in the hell a mugger is going to know it's an iPod.

White earbuds. dead giveaway. yes, you change them. no, most people don't.

inolen wrote: I just opened and closed iTunes and there are no new tasks running in my task manager. And all the other processes are certainly not related to iTunes.

actually there are two, but not at my home pc right now so i will post them later.

Post by **Dave** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:51 pm

lol.. the ipod battery thing. I believe the cost to replace the battery is now $59.99. I bet a battery doesn't cost much less than that retail. I just bought a battery for my camera the other day at the local mom & pop camera shop and paid $50 for something I could get for 30 on Amazon.

I had my ipod repaired when I dropped my backpack on top of my ipod and damaged the click wheel. I received a new one in mail within 2 days and sent the old one back. I wasn't 'treated like shit,' in fact, I never had to talk to a single Apple rep.

I probably walk by a dozen people sporting ipods every day and I don't notice a single one of them. I notice people are listening to music and don't give a shit what they are using.

itunes is not 'bloated.' you just rehash what every other person who's grown up with winamp or WMP say when faced with another program they don't want to become familiar with. My computer has a gig and a half of ram because I intended to use it, not account for every lost kilobyte.

I guess I'm a trend whore... but remember there would be no trend whores if people would keep their holier than thou attitudes to themselves. You who try to claim difference pick the fight in the first place and are the first to piss and moan when someone has a different opinion.

Post by **Dave** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:52 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:White earbuds. dead giveaway. yes, you change them. no, most people don't.

true, but who cares? i mean really cares...

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:54 pm

Dave wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:White earbuds. dead giveaway. yes, you change them. no, most people don't.
true, but who cares? i mean really cares...

thieves care dave. thieves care.

Post by **Dave** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:55 pm

Not where I live

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Nov 28, 2005 11:56 pm

that's great.

Post by **Tormentius** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:30 am

Dave wrote:Not where I live

They don't care where I live either. iPods are everywhere and I have never read about a single iPod-inspired mugging.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:33 am

Tormentius wrote:
Dave wrote:Not where I live
They don't care where I live either. iPods are everywhere and I have never read about a single iPod-inspired mugging.

i'm sure that ipod inspired muggings probably won't make news. petty theft.

Post by **Tormentius** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 12:41 am

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
i'm sure that ipod inspired muggings probably won't make news. petty theft.

Yeah it would make news. When some kid got mugged for his shoes a year or two back it hit the papers so muggers targetting people who have an iPod would definitely make it as well. In downtown Van you see at least one pedestrian with an iPod per block while walking around and there is no associated crime wave.

Apple has earned their absolute market dominance by putting out the best looking product with the easiest to use interface.

Post by **Grudge** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:08 am

lol, mister magnetichead: "oh I'm not like everyone else, I'm different and a rebel so I buy a Sony instead".

"that's also why I dress all in black and cut myself while listening to NIN"

"and I hate my dad, no one understands me"

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:14 am

Dave wrote:
I guess I'm a trend whore... but remember there would be no trend whores if people would keep their holier than thou attitudes to themselves. You who try to claim difference pick the fight in the first place and are the first to piss and moan when someone has a different opinion.

Well in that case seeing as this is my fucking thread everyone who disagrees with my pov are the ones pissing and moaning.

Oh and for the record, no they didn't fix your ipod. They replaced it with a used one.

Post by **Geebs** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:14 am

bitWISE wrote:I like how the screen appears to be just another part of the case.

Can you use MP3s or do have to fag around with AAC?

ATRAC, I think you meant.

This thread is a shining demontration that Apple owns the MP3 player market so hard, you can't even think MP3 player without thinking iPod. Walkman my arse.

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:16 am

Grudge wrote:
"that's also why I dress all in black and cut myself while listening to NIN"

Well, you wonder why I always dress in black,
Why you never see bright colors on my back,
And why does my appearance seem to have a somber tone.
Well, there's a reason for the things that I have on.

I wear the black for the poor and the beaten down,
Livin' in the hopeless, hungry side of town,
I wear it for the prisoner who has long paid for his crime,
But is there because he's a victim of the times.

I wear the black for those who never read,
Or listened to the words that Jesus said,
About the road to happiness through love and charity,
Why, you'd think He's talking straight to you and me.

Well, we're doin' mighty fine, I do suppose,
In our streak of lightnin' cars and fancy clothes,
But just so we're reminded of the ones who are held back,
Up front there ought 'a be a Man In Black.

I wear it for the sick and lonely old,
For the reckless ones whose bad trip left them cold,
I wear the black in mournin' for the lives that could have been,
Each week we lose a hundred fine young men.

And, I wear it for the thousands who have died,
Believen' that the Lord was on their side,
I wear it for another hundred thousand who have died,
Believen' that we all were on their side.

Well, there's things that never will be right I know,
And things need changin' everywhere you go,
But 'til we start to make a move to make a few things right,
You'll never see me wear a suit of white.

Ah, I'd love to wear a rainbow every day,
And tell the world that everything's OK,
But I'll try to carry off a little darkness on my back,
'Till things are brighter, I'm the Man In Black.

Post by **Dave** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:21 am

Mr.Magnetichead wrote:
Dave wrote:
I guess I'm a trend whore... but remember there would be no trend whores if people would keep their holier than thou attitudes to themselves. You who try to claim difference pick the fight in the first place and are the first to piss and moan when someone has a different opinion.
Well in that case seeing as this is my fucking thread everyone who disagrees with my pov are the ones pissing and moaning.

Oh and for the record, no they didn't fix your ipod. They replaced it with a used one.

So does Dell and any other computer company you contact for warranty service. Everytime one of our LCD monitors goes bad, they send us a new monitor, not a new LCD panel to put in the monitor. They don't fix our hard drives, they give us new ones. The ipod is no different. Apple treats it as unit like an LCD instead of parting it out like a hard drive in a computer.

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:24 am

But what dell send you is NEW. Replacement ipods are USED units.

Post by **Dave** » Tue Nov 29, 2005 8:33 am

No they don't, they send you REFURBISHED equipment. You try fighting with them on the phone because they refuse to send you a NEW LCD (because the refurbished ones are always have an annoying pinkish hue).

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:34 pm

A bit of an update.

The software is really nice to use. I havn't used itunes before so I can't compare them but this thing is great. I can DL a whole album in about 12 minutes on my shitty connection, album ripping is super easy and automated and adding your own album covers is a piece of piss.

Now I jsut need the player to arrive.

Heres what i've got imported so far.

[lvlshot]http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/6201/sonyconnect4el.jpg[/lvlshot]

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Nov 30, 2005 5:48 pm

i smell rootkit.