So, I haven't really kept abreast of h/w developments...

Post by **Nightshade** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:40 pm

But seeing as my PC is getting brutally assraped by Q4 I think it's time to upgrade.
My current system is an XP2500+, 2Gb of PC2700, an ASUSA7V8X-X mobo, and a GF6800GT. Now, I'd like to keep the gfx card, but it's AGP and it looks like all the new mobos are PCI-E? I want to go for a significant processor upgrade, but is AGP still an option? Does anyone make a mobo with AGP and PCI-E?

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:41 pm

Fuckin nerd.

Post by **shadd_** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 2:48 pm

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php? ... ure=ASRock

thats about it. never tried that brand before either.

Post by **shaft** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:12 pm

I just bought an A64 4000+ and an MSI AGP motherboard. Was able to keep my current video and ram.

Post by **MKJ** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:17 pm

a breast, yet no pics

Post by **prince1000** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:18 pm

asus makes one but its micro atx and only has 2 pci slots.

you could take a slight step back:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814127147

Post by **prince1000** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:18 pm

shaft wrote:I just bought an A64 4000+ and an MSI AGP motherboard. Was able to keep my current video and ram.

think he wants pci-e for future upgrades...

Post by **Doombrain** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:24 pm

I need to soon as well.

I'll be doing this

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Bundles.html

then this

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/ ... eo_56.html

Post by **shaft** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:30 pm

Is it really worth trying to find a motherboard with both AGP and PCI-e? I think the agp board I just bought was 60-70 bucks. Thats not really a huge amount of money. Buy agp now...and just get a pci-e motherboard when you decide to upgrade your video. For me it was worth the money just to get some more use out of my agp card.

Post by **Doombrain** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:42 pm

yep. i've still got a agp x4 so a new x8 will be like something good.

Post by **Mat Linnett** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:03 pm

Dunno how you feel about this kinda thing DB, but I have it on good authority that the guy who runs OCUK is a big BNP supporter...

Post by **prince1000** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:07 pm

hahaha

Post by **o'dium** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:02 pm

I ahve a 3200 64bit AMD, 2gig of ram and a GF6800 GT and Quake 4 runs at 60FPS locked.

Learn how to build a better rig.

Post by **Doombrain** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:05 pm

Mat Linnett wrote:Dunno how you feel about this kinda thing DB, but I have it on good authority that the guy who runs OCUK is a big BNP supporter...

I know for a fact he is and so are most of the people in Stoke. Stoke has a few issues with immigrants at the moment so the BNP are getting a lot of support from the white population. It’s the same for Shrewsbury. There’s a massive BNP following there.

Post by **Doombrain** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:06 pm

o'dium wrote:I ahve a 3200 64bit AMD, 2gig of ram and a GF6800 GT and Quake 4 runs at 60FPS locked.

Learn how to build a better rig.

ow, get you.

Post by **shaft** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:09 pm

o'dium wrote:I ahve a 3200 64bit AMD, 2gig of ram and a GF6800 GT and Quake 4 runs at 60FPS locked.

Learn how to build a better rig.

idiot.

Post by **Nightshade** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:59 pm

o'dium wrote:I ahve a 3200 64bit AMD, 2gig of ram and a GF6800 GT and Quake 4 runs at 60FPS locked.

Learn how to build a better rig.

Go fuck yourself, you presumptive idiot. The system I put together was meant to be an incremental upgrade over my last one, which it was. I bought the video card a year later.

Douchebag.

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:17 pm

Fuckin nerds.

Post by **Nightshade** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:19 pm

Hey, isn't it time for you to eat? Again?

Post by **dzjepp** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:19 pm

GONNAFISTYA wrote:Fuckin nerds.

Post by **Pauly** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:51 pm

Don't order anything from Overclockers using the name Winston. They charge double.

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:50 pm

they charge triple for clarence. and don't get me started on latifa

Post by **YourGrandpa** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:32 pm

NS, don't waste the time or money building an AGP rig. Hold out for the PCI-E mother board and video card. The price difference isn't going to be that much, unless your current mobo can support a faster CPU and that's all you need. But if you're going new mobo, CPU and RAM, just buy a lower tier PCI-E video card until you're ready for the better one.

Post by **Nightshade** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:42 pm

Dude, I dropped 4 bills for this card, I'd like to get some more use out of it.
My mobo will support a faster CPU, but not a whole lot faster. Problem is that the RAM becomes the bottleneck then.

Can anyone tell me what the fastest CPU is that I can get that will work well with 333Mhz RAM?

Post by **R00k** » Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:12 pm

You can only go so far with incremental upgrades before you're wasting money - at least that's what I found.

You can buy a few steps down from the bleeding edge and still not spend a fortune, while keeping future upgrade options open. If you keep buying down to your best piece of hardware, you can nickel and dime yourself to death, because every component you upgrade after that will require another new piece of hardware in order to support it.