Warsow

Post by **rgoer** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:10 pm

I loved warsow (I even made some trickjumping demos on wdm1) until I found out the developers are a bunch of GPL-violating asshats

Post by **Foo** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:13 pm

Really? Forums say code available on request.

Post by **rgoer** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:19 pm

yeah, which is a violation of the GPL; the source has to be as readily as available as the product itself

but the guys at warsow.net are pretty intent on it being their proprietary baby, so they make you beg for the source

and even then they usually don't grant access to it

basically they took qfusion, which is a GPL-compliant project that uses the GPL-licensed Quake 2 source code, and they decided they didn't have to follow the rules when they made their own thing with it

don't get me wrong, the game is mad fun to play and the movement is awesome (wall jumps = boners), but they really need to learn a few things about OSS

Post by **shiznit** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:21 pm

Can't your report them? Maybe someone can force them to upload it.

Post by **rgoer** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:25 pm

it's id's GPL license that they are violating, and id already knows about it

Post by **shiznit** » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:55 pm

I understand that, it would be a bad move for id to sue them since many people would feel like they are the big brother steping over them.

Maybe get a friendly email from someone with an idsoftware.com email to remind them that they need to keep the source available.

Post by **shiznit** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:07 am

Well I wanted to see if I would be able to acquire the source code, couldn’t find it on the website so I joined the irc (quakenet.org #warsow) channel and got a link to the 0.07a release. I don't really see the problem.

http://wsw.surreal-xenotronic.com/warso ... source.zip
http://wsw.surreal-xenotronic.com/

Post by **Foo** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:08 am

http://ftp.club-internet.fr/pub/games/nofrag/warsow/

Post by **Foo** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:08 am

I do find it patently odd that they dont just put a link on the site.

Post by **Dave** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:15 am

I just tried it.. I guess it's ok if that's all you can afford

Post by **Foo** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:16 am

it is

Post by **shiznit** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:16 am

I really don't like cell shading.

Post by **Foo** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:18 am

Not a big deal for a 'competitive mod' what it looks like, right?

I mean, cel shading and flat colour is pretty much what every comp player whines for with every new game OMG BRITESKINS PLZ!

Give them what they want, and they still complain

Post by **Dave** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 12:18 am

Foo wrote:it is

Don't cry, I don't ever get 90 FPS on my über leet dell 2.53 GHz Celeron value server with wicked fast PCI video card

Post by **rgoer** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:16 am

that's good that they are providing their source more readily these days

the last time I checked out warsow was about six months ago, and at that time some buddies of mine and I came up with the brilliant idea of fixing their weapons and removing the ridiculous strong/weak ammo system--when we tried to find their code, they did everything they could to avoid handing it out

anyway, warsow's cool, glad you stumbled upon it foo

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:35 am

Give the Game some incredably stupid storyline, Fix the jumping. port it to Xbox, Sell it.. and they would be making money asap.

Post by **CheapAlert** » Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:51 am

the old 2003 alpha they had was really copyright breaching, using qrally music, doom3 leak textures even