The Aussies have joined the fight

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chiQ
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The Aussies have joined the fight

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http://www.smh.com.au/news/technology/c ... 20421.html

Now we just need the console manufacturers and publishers to catch on. Australasian prices are mad, and regional coding is of the arse.
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It's about time other countries ruled the same. Modchips are illegal in the UK right now, and that's just plain wrong.
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There's something in New Zealand called the Consumers' Guarantee Act, which ensures that in New Zealand a consumer may make any reasonable use, as may be expected from a product specification, of something they buy.

This protects our right to alter electronics equipment so that we can play the media it's generally designed to play, or to get full use from its components, i.e. we can crack games hardware to fully utilise its capabilities, and no manufacturer limitations as they apply elsewhere can be brought to bear.

DVD regions, games regions, limited access to the XBox hard drive, etc. are pretty much an open book here. I think that should apply everywhere, and see this Australian legal precedent as protection of the rights of Australians as New Zealanders are protected where games lock-downs are concerned.

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Post by [FTF]Pyro »

Regional coding and such things like that are to protect the copyright infringments of companies trading within certain boundries.......


You are all aware of course that this is purely for financial gain of corporations as regional dividing = less taxes
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Post by Canis »

There's too much control over where media can be seen and played, etc. I think if you buy a DVD in one country and move to another country you should be able to see both of them. Its BS to have a limit on how many times you can change the region, or not be able to change the region at all...
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hi chiq !
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chiQ wrote:There's something in New Zealand called the Consumers' Guarantee Act, which ensures that in New Zealand a consumer may make any reasonable use, as may be expected from a product specification, of something they buy.

This protects our right to alter electronics equipment so that we can play the media it's generally designed to play, or to get full use from its components, i.e. we can crack games hardware to fully utilise its capabilities, and no manufacturer limitations as they apply elsewhere can be brought to bear.

DVD regions, games regions, limited access to the XBox hard drive, etc. are pretty much an open book here. I think that should apply everywhere, and see this Australian legal precedent as protection of the rights of Australians as New Zealanders are protected where games lock-downs are concerned.

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Christ, you're a New Zealander? *spit*

back on topic, I truly can't see any sensible reason why modding consoles should be illegal. Honestly, you paid for the physical console, and it's yours. You own it. Unlike software, where you pay for a licence to essentially 'borrow' their bits-and-bytes, you paid for it. There's no borrowing or licencing going on, and they will only replace things that they fucked up (warranty) for a failure time of a year from purchase, if at all.

stupid laws :\
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Hi Milla, glad to see you here. :icon14:
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chiQ wrote:There's something in New Zealand called the Consumers' Guarantee Act, which ensures that in New Zealand a consumer may make any reasonable use, as may be expected from a product specification, of something they buy.

This protects our right to alter electronics equipment so that we can play the media it's generally designed to play, or to get full use from its components, i.e. we can crack games hardware to fully utilise its capabilities, and no manufacturer limitations as they apply elsewhere can be brought to bear.

DVD regions, games regions, limited access to the XBox hard drive, etc. are pretty much an open book here. I think that should apply everywhere, and see this Australian legal precedent as protection of the rights of Australians as New Zealanders are protected where games lock-downs are concerned.

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lol, choice. i didn't know about that
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glossy wrote:Christ, you're a New Zealander? *spit*
a homo says what?
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glossy wrote: Christ, you're a New Zealander? *spit*

back on topic, I truly can't see any sensible reason why modding consoles should be illegal. Honestly, you paid for the physical console, and it's yours. You own it. Unlike software, where you pay for a licence to essentially 'borrow' their bits-and-bytes, you paid for it. There's no borrowing or licencing going on, and they will only replace things that they fucked up (warranty) for a failure time of a year from purchase, if at all.

stupid laws :\
I don't see why there's region lockdowns as well, but I think the main concern of console manufacturers is that modchips also allow you to play copied games.
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Post by glossy »

Eraser wrote:
glossy wrote: Christ, you're a New Zealander? *spit*

back on topic, I truly can't see any sensible reason why modding consoles should be illegal. Honestly, you paid for the physical console, and it's yours. You own it. Unlike software, where you pay for a licence to essentially 'borrow' their bits-and-bytes, you paid for it. There's no borrowing or licencing going on, and they will only replace things that they fucked up (warranty) for a failure time of a year from purchase, if at all.

stupid laws :\
I don't see why there's region lockdowns as well, but I think the main concern of console manufacturers is that modchips also allow you to play copied games.
i understand the concern, i don't understand why it should be illegal.
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seremtan wrote:
glossy wrote:Christ, you're a New Zealander? *spit*
a homo says what?
Fush un chups much?
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chuck sum feesh'n'cheeps on the barby, cobber, an' stone the bleedin' crows while you're at it, blue
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Post by chiQ »

Meh, I like the Aussies (except JH, who is a chum-gargler). Fush and chups are yum. They're better at cricket than us. Who cares?

Yes, regional lock-downs suck, yes, the company line is it's to protect release control and against piracy, and no that doesn't carry much water.

I'm just glad Australia doesn't have to put up with the shit the Americans and others do now. It rocks to be able to modify your own toys, and there's no reason why you shouldn't be able to.

Both our DNS/web/etc. servers are XBoxes. We have at least four (it varies) right now, and they rock. I'd hate to lose the right to have them.
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