I'm surprised..

Post by **Dave** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:14 am

none of you faggots are discussing this:

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/38844

Post by **losCHUNK** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:15 am

its 5AM... can i have that in english ?

Post by **Dave** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:16 am

According to a subscription-only story on the Wall Street Journal website, id software co-founder Adrian Carmack has filed a lawsuit against the Mesquite, Texas based developer following his dismissal from the company earlier this year. According to Carmack, he was fired by the other owners after he wouldn't take a $20 million buyout offer, and contends id turned down an acquisition offer from Activision just to get his shares for a lower price. This supposed Activision offer, made last year, offered id Software $90 million for the rights to Quake, DOOM and Wolfenstein and supposedly Activision was considering a $105 million bid for the entire company as well. According to the court filing, Carmack claims his share would've been 41%. Thanks Blues News.

Post by **Hannibal** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:19 am

oy, the wheels be comin' off da wagon.

Post by **Underpants?** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:28 am

there's always that one stupid fucking sibling in every family.

Post by **Foo** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:31 am

Carmacks aren't related.

Post by **Foo** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:36 am

BTW for clarity:
The activision offer was 90mil.
Adrian asserts his stake was 41%.
He was offered 20mil for his stake.

If those 3 are all established, then it's clear that he was offered well under the value of his stake.

Post by **Psyche911** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:37 am

Underpants? wrote:there's always that one stupid fucking sibling in every family.

P.S. I'm laughing at you, not with you.

Post by **DooMer** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:40 am

How can it be 41% out of 5 co-owners? AC, JC, and Cloud were co owners since the beginning right? shouldnt they at least have equal shares?

Post by **Foo** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:46 am

IIRC there's a pair of them with top control over the company.

Post by **dzjepp** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:56 am

Oh. It's about the other Carmack. The one noone gives a hoot about.

Post by **Foo** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:59 am

Personally, the one member of id Software I thought could steer the company in a better direction. At least from my perspective as a game player.

Post by **Don Carlos** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:13 am

Interesting...
Tho why would they have gotten rid of him??
And what will happen to id if Activision DO buy them out?

Post by **SoM** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:16 am

crappy games

Post by **Scourge** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:16 am

Don Carlos wrote: And what will happen to id if Activision DO buy them out?

Nothing good, I'll wager.

Post by **bork[e]** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:24 am

Activision hasn't done a bad job in the past imo, with what I have plade anyway. I don't see them doing a better job than the little id team...but I don't see this happening any time soon anyway.

edit: You at least have to say you would be more happy seeing Activision buy them than good 'ol EA. :/

Post by **Dante** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:26 am

SoM wrote:crappy games

Not like Doom3 was hot shit after all the hype.

Post by **bork[e]** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:27 am

one game out of many

...and to be a shity game, there are many below it.

Post by **DooMer** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:30 am

Activision is a publisher. I don't think they work on games, they would just own the franchises, and lend them out to other developers to make the games for them.

Post by **Hannibal** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:41 am

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Post by **Mogul** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:25 am

Man, that is a shame. I was hoping it was just a rumor that Adrian was fired from id. Being (I suppose) the lead artist there at id, I'm afraid the games are now going to take on a more commercial look than previously.

Depends on who replaces him I guess.

Post by **Grudge** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:34 am

Next up: Quake the Movie

Post by **duffman91** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:47 am

Interesting, this could be the first warning signs to the breakup of id.

Post by **Eraser** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:57 am

duffman91 wrote:Interesting, this could be the first warning signs to the breakup of id.

Naah, they didn't break up when Romero "left" either.

Post by **Eraser** » Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:58 am

Foo wrote:BTW for clarity:
The activision offer was 90mil.
Adrian asserts his stake was 41%.
He was offered 20mil for his stake.

If those 3 are all established, then it's clear that he was offered well under the value of his stake.

Activision even offered 105 mil for the entire company. 41% of 105mil is a whopping lot more than 20mil