Alien Planet

[Foo]

Not if you consider the basic constraints of our universe and factor in the age of a planet and take evolution theory as a base.

[phantasmagoria]

What's that?

[Transient]

Yea, what Foo said.

[Transient]

What's that?

I think it's a lamprey or something. Honestly I don't know. I put in a few fish-related google image searches and it popped up.

[[FTF]Pyro]

Not if you consider the basic constraintsthat we think we know of our universe and factor in the age of a planet and take known evolution theory as a base.

and thats my point. we dont know shit about this planet yet let alone have the ability to percieve the infinite universe and everything in it.


as I said above, everything that you relate to "out there" is merely a reflection of "in here"


True knowledge exists in knowing that you know nothing. - Socrates


It isnt wrong to dream the possibilities, but wrong to predict the boundries.

[Foo]

The infinite universe?

[shiznit]

I agree we should study our oceans, but I think space is even more interesting.

Pyro isn't making much sense, the universe isn't really infinite but it might as well be.

Socrates was philosopher not a scientist.

[feedback]

What's that?

It's a lamprey. They attach themselves to other animals, usually fish, and open a wound with their circular jaw. Then they are attached, and eat the animal from the inside out. They're also neccessary for decomposing huge carcasses, like whales. Thousands of them swarm all over and strip it. They live both in ocean and fresh water.

[[FTF]Pyro]

Pyro isn't making much sense, the universe isn't really infinite but it might as well be.

What ? ........ if there are known edges to the universe then what is after that. Explore your minds. Do you think that there has to be a barrier and containment to define something. The infinite possibilities are right in front of you. Dont think big, think small. Scientists broke barriers when they found quarks, thinking that atoms were the smallest things that existed.

A quark is one of two currently recognized groups of fundamental particles, which are subatomic, indivisible (at least as far as we know today) particles that represent the smallest known units of matter. Twelve fundamental particles - six quarks and six leptons (the other type) - are the basic building blocks for everything in the universe.

what is smaller than a quark. Who knows but there has to be something. same goes for the infinite universe

How can the Universe be infinite if it was all concentrated into a point at the Big Bang?

The Universe was not concentrated into a point at the time of the Big Bang. But the observable Universe was concentrated into a point. The distinction between the whole Universe and the part of it that we can see is important. In the figure below, two views of the Universe are shown: on the left for 1 Gyr after the Big Bang, and on the right the current Universe 13 Gyr after the Big Bang (assuming that the Hubble constant is Ho = 50 km/sec/Mpc and the Universe has the critical density.)





The size of the box in each view is 78 billion light years. The green circle on the the right is the part of the Universe that we can currently see. In the view on the left, this same part of the Universe is shown by the green circle, but now the green circle is a tiny fraction of the 78 billion light year box, and the box is an infinitesimal fraction of the whole Universe. If we go to smaller and smaller times since the Big Bang, the green circle shrinks to a point, but the 78 billion light year box is always full, and it is always an infinitesimal fraction of the infinite Universe.

Note that the black dots represent galaxies, and the galaxies do not expand even though the separation between galaxies grows with time.



heres a tutorial on space time relativity. expand your ideas and your brains people



http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/relatvty.htm

[[FTF]Pyro]

Socrates was philosopher not a scientist.

You need to read some more dear fellow



http://www.3rd1000.com/elements/history.htm


Socrates (470-399 B.C.) - Greek philosopher; emphasized the study of human nature in relationship to society; influence the growth of science through standards for clear definitions and classifications, for logic and order, and for prudent skepticism.



socrates wasnt a scientist pffffffffffffffffffffft.

[shiznit]

Are you a complete idiot?

[[FTF]Pyro]

Are you a complete idiot?

....... yes, yes I am. :icon27:

[shiznit]

Alright, just wanted to make sure that you were.

[MKJ]

Basically the show was "look at the alien creatures we thought up and made into CG"

So you've seen it?

I have no doubt the program was prolly okay to watch,

No wait, so, you haven't seen it?

How can you sum up what the show is without having seen it? That's not all of what the show was about. They go into great detail about how those aliens are plausible.

my point is that any alien is possible because "physics" is only relavent to the world in which we percieve and know.

same with chemistry same with biology same with maths...... etc etc etc.


any alien is plausible is my point..... that is what makes it alien.

so maths are not universal?

[brisk]

So you've seen it?No wait, so, you haven't seen it?

How can you sum up what the show is without having seen it? That's not all of what the show was about. They go into great detail about how those aliens are plausible.

my point is that any alien is possible because "physics" is only relavent to the world in which we percieve and know.

same with chemistry same with biology same with maths...... etc etc etc.


any alien is plausible is my point..... that is what makes it alien.

so maths are not universal?

It depends which universe you're talking about

[[FTF]Pyro]

It depends which universe you're talking about

[Foo]

So now it's not about this infinite universe.

Wait, what.