Next-gen games look so sweet!

Post by **dzjepp** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:52 am

Not!

[lvlshot]http://pepsi.yahoo.com/everyten/images/w1280Madden1.jpg[/lvlshot]

[lvlshot]http://pepsi.yahoo.com/everyten/images/w1280Madden2.jpg[/lvlshot]

Damn that looks crappy.

Remember they said it would look like this? http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?da ... 9-12&res=l

OMG THEY LIED TO US!

Post by **Foo** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:56 am

Heh. That's tragic.

I'm liking the term 'Bullshot'.

Post by **Grudge** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:01 am

sports games, meh

Post by **Whiskey 7** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:53 am

Shot 1 - shite

Shot 2 - better :icon10:

Post by **o'dium** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:39 am

Remember, this is an EA title.

EA will make games for the lowest console first. Thats why the games always look the same on the PS2, Cube and Xbox. Even though the PS2 is the worst spec by a long way, it still looks the same as the xbox...?

With the next gen wars, they are doing kinda the same. Madden 06 will be on xbox AND 360. And it looks like they will be adding a few extra things for the 360, but dont count on a brand new game.

But i have to say very little of the "ACTUAL" in-game shots i've seen so far have impressed me. Its just not the massive jump everybody was expecting i guess.

However, what does impress are games like Deep Rising, games that throw fuck loads of shit at you but still look decent with a great frame rate.

I would rather play a game like that than EA trash any day...

Post by **Dante** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:50 am

Looking at the fans in the first pic, it reminded me of GTA3.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:32 pm

rofl...consoles...

Post by **o'dium** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:45 pm

Freakaloin wrote:rofl...consoles...

You know i was about to post "consoles are better for some games, its just FPS and RTS games that Pc is amazing for".

And then it hit me...

Thats just utter tripe. Because you can play FPS games on a console with a mouse/keyboard, and you can play adventure games on a PC with an actual xbox or 360 pad...

So...

I dunno. I'll always have my PC, because i know no matter what i'll never be able to to the media editing i can now on a PS7.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:50 pm

consoles r for the kids in my house...

Post by **busetibi** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 12:52 pm

grid iron?

Post by **Tsakali** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:50 pm

actually if you shoot up the res and AA it'll look perfect

Post by **reefsurfer** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:03 pm

Freakaloin wrote:consoles r for the kids in my house...

And the washing machine and vacumcleaner are for you! :lol:

Post by **SoM** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:07 pm

i'll stab you in the mouth, you ever been stabbed there ?

what a faggot

Post by **reallyfull** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:11 pm

SoM wrote:i'll stab you in the mouth, you ever been stabbed there ?

what a faggot

Not with a knife :icon29:

Post by **Grudge** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:13 pm

Penny Arcade

Post by **SoM** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:14 pm

HA, u like the cawk

Post by **Grudge** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:14 pm

Cockthirsty

Post by **Foo** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:45 pm

o'dium wrote:Remember, this is an EA title.

EA will make games for the lowest console first. Thats why the games always look the same on the PS2, Cube and Xbox. Even though the PS2 is the worst spec by a long way, it still looks the same as the xbox...?

With the next gen wars, they are doing kinda the same. Madden 06 will be on xbox AND 360. And it looks like they will be adding a few extra things for the 360, but dont count on a brand new game.

But i have to say very little of the "ACTUAL" in-game shots i've seen so far have impressed me. Its just not the massive jump everybody was expecting i guess.

However, what does impress are games like Deep Rising, games that throw fuck loads of shit at you but still look decent with a great frame rate.

I would rather play a game like that than EA trash any day...

What you say is true but you've missed the point of what's being said. The topic of conversation is centered around the disparity of screenshots shown of this game in the past (which looked fantastic), and the actual game being floored right now.

Normally companies glam stuff up a bit (Rockstar is bad for editing their shots, even on the box covers), but the difference here is like heaven + earth grade shit.

Post by **o'dium** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:59 pm

Listen mate, shit happens. Remember the first shots of Project Gothem 3? They looked real. You couldn't even see polygons on the cars edges for gods sake, it was THAT high poly. Or the killzone videos. Or pretty much any other PS3 video.

Thats just the way life goes. You always wow people with what "could be done", but then drop the detail when you see that people dont want to play a slideshow.

Case in point, Doom 3. First shown, it had enhanced particle effects, reflective shaders for windows and stuff, all sorts of cool shit. Turns out most of it was dropped because it would of killed you PC at the time.

Of course i don't care about any of that, i just wanted the fantastic death animation in the final

Post by **Chupacabra** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:38 pm

you make it sound like its more of an accidental "yeah this is what its suppose to be (or what we have) but because of _____ we had to drop it a bit".

i think its more of a complete deceit on their part. they know that theres no way in hell its going to end up looking like that.

also you make it sound as if the whole "they want to wow you" is a valid excuse. i mean i guess its an excuse but its full of bullshit and shouldnt be tolerated, which is the point of this thread.

Post by **Foo** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:42 pm

Yeah. On top of that, you primarily hang out here to discuss upcoming game titles and talk about screenshots and videos... now you're saying they dont mean shit.

Post by **Deathshroud** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:19 pm

Who didn't see this coming?

Post by **dzjepp** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:31 pm

Oh and also if anyone has the necessary funds to splash those kind of visuals into their franchises it's EA. And considering that Madden is one of their biggest selling money farms they could of spend a TON of money on it and still break even (how many more people would jump ship and buy their Madden game on top of the massive fan base? Plenty).

If EA is cutting corners, what chance do the small players have?

Post by **Foo** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:34 pm

EA is cutting corners because it want to maximise profit, not build a fanbase. It's already done that.

Hence small players just need to focus on the fanbase and they'll do just fine. I dont think the state of EA Games reflects on the industry as a whole, because EA games is an evil freak.

Post by **[FTF]Pyro** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:53 pm

I find it funny that people are actually still complaining about this kind of thing

I remember when nintendo first released "Screenshots" of Project Reality

They bascially took a high end SGI Workstation made some video clips and said the N64 will be the same

Anyone remember the train demo

or whatabout when the quake 3 engine was first being done. I remember the screenshots at UBER resolution and remember a Klesk type character that look unreal and wouldnt look out of place in a modern day game.

Same shit different console launch.