The seven flavors of Windows Vista

Post by **Grudge** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:12 am

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050910-5298.html

The best operating system ever offered for a personal PC, optimized for the individual. Windows Vista Ultimate Edition is a superset of both Vista Home Premium and Vista Pro Edition, so it includes all of the features of both of those product versions, plus adds Game Performance Tweaker with integrated gaming experiences, a Podcast creation utility (under consideration, may be cut from product), and online "Club" services (exclusive access to music, movies, services and preferred customer care) and other offerings (also under consideration, may be cut from product). Microsoft is still investigating how to position its most impressive Windows release yet, and is looking into offering Ultimate Edition owners such services as extended A1 subscriptions, free music downloads, free movie downloads, Online Spotlight and entertainment software, preferred product support, and custom themes. There is nothing like Vista Ultimate Edition today. This version is aimed at high-end PC users and technology influencers, gamers, digital media enthusiasts, and students.

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:18 am

Post by **Kills On Site** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:21 am

One final note worth mentioning is that this strategy does remove the "corporate Windows XP" option from the hands of pirates. Volume licensing for Pro, SBE, and EE may still mean that there will be copies of Windows Vista out there that don't "call home" for Windows Product Activation, but as you can see, Microsoft has removed most of the features that most pirates would want from those OSes. You won't see corporate licensing versions of Ultimate Edition.

Smart.

Post by **Whiskey 7** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:22 am

.......as extended A1 subscriptions, free music downloads, free movie downloads, Online Spotlight and entertainment software, preferred product support, and custom themes......

Not such thing as a free lunch they say

Watch and wait I'd say :icon9:

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:32 am

Time to finally buy a windows OS me thinks.

Post by **4days** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:32 am

sounds awful. can't they leave all that bollocks and fluff to third parties?

Post by **MKJ** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:34 am

hurray, 7 different builds of the same os.
thats just asking for inevitable bugs&showstoppers :icon14:

Post by **Nightshade** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:39 am

Mr.Magnetichead wrote:Time to finally buy a windows OS me thinks.

I was thinking the same thing, but this will be price-dependent. If they think I'm going to pay >$300 for this, they're fucking nuts.

Post by **Iccy (temp)** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 11:50 am

4days wrote:sounds awful. can't they leave all that bollocks and fluff to third parties?

Correct. I dont see why everyone gets excited over the fluff they include.

Does anyone use the built in cd burning utility for XP?
Anyone using movie maker?

Stuff like that is best left to the 3rd party vendors that not only need the niche they made to pay their employees but do it better then anyone else cause simply enough, its what they do. In almost every case you will find that a company that specializes in 1 specific product will be superior in that area then a company trying to span out from their main focus and include something else.

So as far as im concerned, there is just more shit im going to have to uninstall and hack out of the OS to make it run good. Much like i had to do with winXP to mkae it fast and stable as win2k.

Still not impressed. The only thing that i like about vista so far is the increased driver database, which is nothing that a new SP for winXP couldnt do. I cant find one valid reason to get vista yet.

Post by **Grudge** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:27 pm

Iccy (temp) wrote: Does anyone use the built in cd burning utility for XP?
Anyone using movie maker?

I'd say a helluva lot more people than the number of people who have actually purchased Nero or Adobe Premiere.

Post by **Eraser** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:37 pm

What MS should do is build a base Windows framework, let people buy that at a low price point and then, after installing it, let them buy & download those specific features they require.

Post by **bitWISE** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:03 pm

Eraser wrote:What MS should do is build a base Windows framework, let people buy that at a low price point and then, after installing it, let them buy & download those specific features they require.

The average user would be like

Post by **bitWISE** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:06 pm

Iccy (temp) wrote:
4days wrote:sounds awful. can't they leave all that bollocks and fluff to third parties?
Does anyone use the built in cd burning utility for XP?
Anyone using movie maker?

I would say that people either didn't know it existed or they used 3rd party apps that offered more features.

Post by **Turbine** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:07 pm

I just might have to finaly buy Windows. :icon25:

Post by **Turbine** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:15 pm

On a second note.
I use the Windows Xp CD Burner on regular basis. It is just simple drag and drop. SO when I need a CD and I need it fast, I just drag some files, burn and go.

But when I am actaly making a good, music CD. Or a fully loaded data CD I go with NEro.

I also Use the Windows Media Movie Maker.
I use it to do quick storyboard for any movie I made. (mostly Mountain Biking)
Using Adobe Premier for quick storyboards, SUCKS, it just to slow on the playback.

But I use Adobe Premier for final edits and post production.

Post by **RRROOOAAARRR** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:23 pm

What the hell does "integrated gaming experiences" mean in Earth language?

Post by **JulesWinnfield** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:23 pm

Four flavors too many.

Post by **plained** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:24 pm

turbine youd prolly like quicktime pro

Post by **Turbine** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:27 pm

plained wrote:turbine youd prolly like quicktime pro

How's it like?

Post by **JulesWinnfield** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:29 pm

Turbine wrote:
plained wrote:turbine youd prolly like quicktime pro
How's it like?

You can drag and drop images into a new quicktime window and set durations. You can also add in sound/sync it up, etc.

It's an NLE w/o the whole interface.

Post by **plained** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:30 pm

its very simple, "yo not implying you need that" its very fast and its very powerful

but honestly tho i havent compared the quicktime pc dv codec to the vegas/sony or the premere or whatever so im not sure whitch renders the best quality

Post by **DiscoDave** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:34 pm

Personally speaking, i doubt a lot of people are going to use all these extra features i vista, and having them is probably going to "justify" a phat price tag.

Like with everyone else, i'll no doubt get vista eventually, but im getting reccuring thoughts on how this might be the next windows M.E. Now MS will have to support a lot more with their new os.

Post by **Tormentius** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:44 pm

Eraser wrote:What MS should do is build a base Windows framework, let people buy that at a low price point and then, after installing it, let them buy & download those specific features they require.

Read a little more into how the OS will be structured. It's made from a base image + language + featureset package which are combined to create a final OS image. It sounds like a network admin's dream.

Post by **Geebs** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:19 pm

Given its history as a whole, they should really have called it "Windows Under Consideration May Be Cut From Project"