suicidal tendencies, while a problem with some SSRI's, are not the major issue that I have with them. It's the deeper issue of using chemicals to blunt your emotional life and the fact that they're being handed out "like candies".
they can also fuck up your sex life.
suicide and ssri's
I dunno, sometimes a pornstar semi-on is exactly what's required. In fact I think the ability to bang for a couple of hours at a time was probably the main reason my depression cleared up[xeno]Julios wrote:they can also fuck up your sex life.
I agree that antidepressants are overprescribed; about 70% of the people I meet on antidepressants (bear in mind I work in A&E, and therefore the sort of people I deal with aren't necessarily a representative sample) aren't depressed, they're just total wankers. In the same way, about 95% of the "suicide attempts" I get in aren't actual suicide attempts, they're people having a whinge.
Doctors get blamed, and rightly, for overprescription of these drugs, but the public are also to blame. several scenarios:
1) Doc you gotta give me something, my life's fucked up (well take some responsibility and unfuck it, then)
2) Doc my relative's out of control, you've got to give them something, I'll sue you if anything happens to them. It'll be your fault for not fixing everything in 5 minutes, it's not like I've had their entire lifetime to tell them to stop taking drugs/neglecting their kids/self harming/beating their spouse/drinking
3) Doc, I'm going to kill myself. Not tonight, maybe the day after tomorrow. Maybe I won't. Nobody understands me blah blah blah.
4) Doc, I drink and smoke too much and now I can't sleep, can you give me a sleeping pill? No, I'm not going to stop drinking.
This may come across as unsympathetic, but I've met enough genuinely mad people that I have a pretty good sense of when they're not mad, just emotionally manipulative and it gets right up my nose. If people laid off the substance abuse and took some responsibility for their own lives, they'd avoid totally unnecessary medication.
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hahaGeebs wrote:
I dunno, sometimes a pornstar semi-on is exactly what's required. In fact I think the ability to bang for a couple of hours at a time was probably the main reason my depression cleared up
no but seriously, in women especially it can destroy or severely hinder the ability to reach orgasm.
Well, who wants to bang a depressed chick anyway?[xeno]Julios wrote:hahaGeebs wrote:
I dunno, sometimes a pornstar semi-on is exactly what's required. In fact I think the ability to bang for a couple of hours at a time was probably the main reason my depression cleared up
no but seriously, in women especially it can destroy or severely hinder the ability to reach orgasm.
Yeah. Guess I would. What have you got to lose?Geebs wrote:Well, who wants to bang a depressed chick anyway?[xeno]Julios wrote:hahaGeebs wrote:
I dunno, sometimes a pornstar semi-on is exactly what's required. In fact I think the ability to bang for a couple of hours at a time was probably the main reason my depression cleared up
no but seriously, in women especially it can destroy or severely hinder the ability to reach orgasm.
crying = hotGeebs wrote:Well, who wants to bang a depressed chick anyway?[xeno]Julios wrote:hahaGeebs wrote:
I dunno, sometimes a pornstar semi-on is exactly what's required. In fact I think the ability to bang for a couple of hours at a time was probably the main reason my depression cleared up
no but seriously, in women especially it can destroy or severely hinder the ability to reach orgasm.
well, a few days of activity seems to have sorted him out without the need for detox. he's been off the booze for 48 hours. i told my GP, who's a hero, what was happening and he's becoming my mates new GP. he's had him put him on a minimal reduction dose of fluaxonol with the possibility of trying out non-ssri's later if it's decided that he needs anything at all. there's some ugliness about what he's been prescribed and shouldn't have been, but the doc's sorting that.
the tricky bit was that because of the suicide attempt, he had to meet with a 'crisis team' this morning. 'crisis team' is a term the english use to describe two or more people that, having utterly zerofactored in every aspect of their own lives, decide to interfere in other peoples, by becoming social workers and talking pop psychology they've learned from daytime television until you want to punch them in the face.
the tricky bit was that because of the suicide attempt, he had to meet with a 'crisis team' this morning. 'crisis team' is a term the english use to describe two or more people that, having utterly zerofactored in every aspect of their own lives, decide to interfere in other peoples, by becoming social workers and talking pop psychology they've learned from daytime television until you want to punch them in the face.
blimey, thanks supermodPauly wrote:Sorry to hear about your mate 4days, but I would like to add at this point that I think you are probably the funniest and best poster on this board.
no, that sounds pretty reasonable. by association i know quite a few people that are on the books as drug-crazed nutters and they're not. they're just shitheads, wasting drugs that could have been taken by much cooler, better-looking people.Geebs wrote:Doctors get blamed, and rightly, for overprescription of these drugs, but the public are also to blame. several scenarios:
1) Doc you gotta give me something, my life's fucked up (well take some responsibility and unfuck it, then)
2) Doc my relative's out of control, you've got to give them something, I'll sue you if anything happens to them. It'll be your fault for not fixing everything in 5 minutes, it's not like I've had their entire lifetime to tell them to stop taking drugs/neglecting their kids/self harming/beating their spouse/drinking
3) Doc, I'm going to kill myself. Not tonight, maybe the day after tomorrow. Maybe I won't. Nobody understands me blah blah blah.
4) Doc, I drink and smoke too much and now I can't sleep, can you give me a sleeping pill? No, I'm not going to stop drinking.
This may come across as unsympathetic, but I've met enough genuinely mad people that I have a pretty good sense of when they're not mad, just emotionally manipulative and it gets right up my nose. If people laid off the substance abuse and took some responsibility for their own lives, they'd avoid totally unnecessary medication.
4days wrote:'crisis team' is a term the english use to describe two or more people that, having utterly zerofactored in every aspect of their own lives, decide to interfere in other peoples, by becoming social workers and talking pop psychology they've learned from daytime television until you want to punch them in the face.
Indeed.Pauly wrote:Sorry to hear about your mate 4days, but I would like to add at this point that I think you are probably the funniest and best poster on this board.