How come none of you are talking about the hugeass hurricane

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tnf wrote:
Dave wrote:what is my sig...
i meant your rank.
yeah, but then I'd have to have an ahnold icon from predator >:E
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i fucked a guy name katrina once...
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tnf wrote:
Mr.Magnetichead wrote:Err maybe Europe and the other nations in the UN for one.

Another president hasn't already driven the nation into a trillion dollar debt at the same time as slapping it's once loyal friends in theface.

Yes they do, I want to see how they explain 'God' wiping a state off the map.
yea, because the US has NEVER helped other nations in the midst of natural disasters....and I'm not talking just government help here (which has been admittedly weak in some cases) I'm talking about the numbers of volunteers, my own brother being one, who have packed up and gone to help in areas hit by floods, earthquakes, etc. etc. etc....

it's funny how folks antipathy towards the current administration and its policies spills over to include every american citizen - wishing all sorts of hell to befall them because you want to see how Bush has to eat shit when handling it and how a small group of zealots rants about it being part of God punishing them...

you have no idea what is in the heart and mind of the majority of americans who detest Bush and his foreign policy - his fucking approval rating is barely 40%, which is still 40% too high...

but ffs, you rant like the rest of the world is populated by an enlightened group of people whose politicians are above corrupt behavior...
I've seen whats in the heart and minds of your majority. Twice. 3 times if you count his Daddy.
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haha.. i was watching fox. They interviewed some guy who wasnt going to evacuate and the guy responds "none of your fucking business" :olo:
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Nightshade wrote:This will serve to illustrate once more that whenever horrid shit happens in the world, the damaged country looks to the US with their hands out.
Same shit happens here, no one gives a fuck.
not even remotely true. US govt aid is among the lowest in the western world, and the majority of it goes to israel and egypt, two US clients, and not for humanitarian reasons either. the remainder is largely linked to the needs of US businesses re. cutting 'trade barriers' etc.

please note that i said US GOVT. i've no idea how much ordinary americans give to international charities, but it's fair to say that the US is better placed to deal with hurricanes than bangladesh is to deal with massive floods. it's also fair to say that the "same shit happens here, no one gives a fuck" cuts the other way rather more sharply than it does the way you mean.
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Mr.Magnetichead wrote:
I've seen whats in the heart and minds of your majority. Twice. 3 times if you count his Daddy.

the majority didn't vote him in.
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seremtan wrote:
Nightshade wrote:This will serve to illustrate once more that whenever horrid shit happens in the world, the damaged country looks to the US with their hands out.
Same shit happens here, no one gives a fuck.
not even remotely true. US govt aid is among the lowest in the western world, and the majority of it goes to israel and egypt, two US clients, and not for humanitarian reasons either. the remainder is largely linked to the needs of US businesses re. cutting 'trade barriers' etc.

please note that i said US GOVT. i've no idea how much ordinary americans give to international charities, but it's fair to say that the US is better placed to deal with hurricanes than bangladesh is to deal with massive floods. it's also fair to say that the "same shit happens here, no one gives a fuck" cuts the other way rather more sharply than it does the way you mean.
Not that I care either way, but do you have a source or are you making it up?
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Dave wrote:haha.. i was watching fox. They interviewed some guy who wasnt going to evacuate and the guy responds "none of your fucking business" :olo:
:olo:
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tnf wrote:
Mr.Magnetichead wrote:
I've seen whats in the heart and minds of your majority. Twice. 3 times if you count his Daddy.

the majority didn't vote him in.
Uhu, and what percentage of of 'Average America' got up and voted?

Apathy is not an excuse.
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riddla wrote:
tnf wrote:
Mr.Magnetichead wrote:
I've seen whats in the heart and minds of your majority. Twice. 3 times if you count his Daddy.

the majority didn't vote him in.
and without ballot printouts we have no way to say it wasnt a gargantuan scam in the first place.
And let you as a nation just sat back and lets them slip another finger past your sphincter.
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GOOD THING WE HAVE THE NATIONAL GUARD DURING THESE EMERGENCIES! what? where?? WHEN?!? ummm, ahem. ladies and gentlemen, you are on your own. thank you and goodnight. i'm outa here!...
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Dave wrote:Not that I care either way
Way to just confirm a large part of what he was stating.
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Dave wrote:
tnf wrote:
Dave wrote:what is my sig...
i meant your rank.
yeah, but then I'd have to have an ahnold icon from predator >:E
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scourge34 wrote:
Dave wrote:
tnf wrote: i meant your rank.
yeah, but then I'd have to have an ahnold icon from predator >:E
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i actually have that iconized somewhere, was going to use it a long time ago but never made the request...heh.
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Foo wrote:
Dave wrote:Not that I care either way
Way to just confirm a large part of what he was stating.
It's about making valid, well-reasoned and supported arguments. As far as I'm concerned, he didn't meet that goal
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scourge34 wrote:
Dave wrote:
tnf wrote: i meant your rank.
yeah, but then I'd have to have an ahnold icon from predator >:E
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i dunno.. I think I'll stick with Kindahgahten Cop. :lub:
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Freakaloin wrote:GOOD THING WE HAVE THE NATIONAL GUARD DURING THESE EMERGENCIES! what? where?? WHEN?!? ummm, ahem. ladies and gentlemen, you are on your own. thank you and goodnight. i'm outa here!...
"President Bush declared a state of emergency, allowing for the deployment of 4,000 National Guard troops and the freeing of millions of dollars in federal funds that will be necessary for recovery and rebuilding."

Source: Timesonline
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Millions? For a destroyed state? :olo:
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Foo wrote:Source: Timesonline
I see you took my post seriously...
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Get your ass to Mars!
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We all have our pet peeves...
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I have my own personal menagerie
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seremtan wrote:
Nightshade wrote:This will serve to illustrate once more that whenever horrid shit happens in the world, the damaged country looks to the US with their hands out.
Same shit happens here, no one gives a fuck.
not even remotely true. US govt aid is among the lowest in the western world, and the majority of it goes to israel and egypt, two US clients, and not for humanitarian reasons either. the remainder is largely linked to the needs of US businesses re. cutting 'trade barriers' etc.

please note that i said US GOVT. i've no idea how much ordinary americans give to international charities, but it's fair to say that the US is better placed to deal with hurricanes than bangladesh is to deal with massive floods. it's also fair to say that the "same shit happens here, no one gives a fuck" cuts the other way rather more sharply than it does the way you mean.

b.s.

if you are talking the government giving as a percentage of the nations gdp, maybe you are right, but in terms of dollar amounts the u.s. government gives more aid than any nation in the world.
more than most of other western nations put together.....
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Can you substantiate that?
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if you want quotes from colin powell or the u.s. press secretary. (or believe them)
edit: or I could throw out my education that gave me a b.a. in economics that would make me guess that in tems of GDP the U.S. would be about 20-22nd or in terms of dollar amounts would be 1 or 2 with japan as the other leader
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