Well sports fans, it doesn't get any better than this. We can finally read the entire saga of what happened to Sibel that led up to her firing from the FBI, and it's a nasty story.
She is still supposed to be under a gag order, so I'm sure there is a lot of stuff she isn't saying, but this is her interview with Vanity Fair magazine, and once I got to the part about dead-drops and money for military secrets, I couldn't stop reading. Here are two links so you can pick the one that's formatted best for you:
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/read ... Num=104108
http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/sib ... erview.htm
I'm just a little over halfway through it right now, and there is another interview she did last week with Christopher Deliso, from AntiWar.com (site with Justin Raimondo's stories). She discusses her Vanity Fair article and talks more:
http://www.antiwar.com/deliso/?articleid=6934
I don't know how many of you have followed this story, but every time I get an idea of what kind of ridiculous corruption is involved with her saga, I find another article like this that breaks new ground and reveals even more layers of sickening cronyism and corruption, not only in our legislative branch where we expect it most, but right in the heart of our federal intelligence services, with connections everywhere.
Sibel Edmonds
Well I just finished both articles, and holy shit is all I've got to say.
The Anti-War interview was much better than the VF article, as far as substance goes - but that's probably because I already knew the background.
The Anti-War interview was much better than the VF article, as far as substance goes - but that's probably because I already knew the background.
I'm surprised she hasn't mysteriously disappeared.Zeroing In
CD: It must be very frustrating for you, not to be able to speak about what you know.
SE: Yeah, really, it's so frustrating.
CD: So since you are still gagged, is there anything you hope for, aside from getting heard before the Supreme Court? I mean, is there anything people can do?
SE: I hope that if anything comes of this new media attention, they [congressmen] might say, "You know what, one name is out there already," and maybe people will start to say the others.
Because enough people in Congress know who is involved and what the stakes are. It's not necessary for me to do it; any number of people can step forward. They just need to be a little more brave, and – yes, more patriotic. Because like I told you before, these kind of criminal acts some of our leaders are involved in do not have any benefit for 99.9 percent of the American people. And in fact they're actually very harmful for American and world security.
CD: So what do you hope for from the media? I mean, I know you suggested the media should concentrate on the State Secrets aspect rather than the "poor whistleblower" one. That's clear. But of course we would love to know more details, even general ones.
For example, can you give any kind of insight into where to look? I know some of these "semi-legitimate organizations" you've mentioned and how they operate. You discussed that at length in our first interview. But what about individuals? What is the profile of your average high-level crook?
SE: Well, you can piece things together fairly well, I think, and not just from what I have to say. A lot of information is already out there. Things like the L.A. Times article I mentioned, they give a lot of context. But generally, look at what we discussed here.
CD: You mean where such officials are to be found?
SE: Yes. Watch the Department of State. Watch people who are involved with the countries I mentioned above. Watch their careers, where they were stationed, what jobs they held, what were their areas of expertise, where these interests overlap. Were they involved with weapons procurement ever? Would anything in their resumé indicate knowledge of and experience in not one, but several of these countries I have mentioned?
Because you know, it is not very often you can find someone with the requisite linguistic and cultural training necessary for working with several countries simultaneously, as well as the acumen and right mindset for these kinds of adventures. There can't be many.
Look out for the organizations they're involved in. Look at where these memberships overlap. Two major lobby groups that have come out in one way or another have been the American-Turkish Council and AIPAC. They're not the only ones, but you can start with them. Look at their members, their leaders past and present. Look at where these names overlap with the qualities I mentioned above.
CD: Yes, that is good for background, but at the end of the day to have anything "real" it basically has to come down to what the guy had for breakfast that day.
I mean, even the Vanity Fair "revelation" had to admit that there was no way of proving Hastert was ever given $500,000 to scupper the Armenian genocide bill. So obviously he could just laugh it off. It ended on a very deflationary note.
SE: Yes, you have a point. But making specific charges in specific cases, no one in the media can ever do that without explicit evidence from someone very close to the investigation or activity.
What I am telling you is that this network is visible, and it is possible to grasp what's going on. And I think to a certain extent it's obvious that some of your neocons will be involved in these criminal activities. You don't need me to tell you that. But too often, they [the media] have looked in the wrong places.
CD: An example?
SE: Well, I'm wondering why in this "war on terror" they aren't taking a look at the role of banks in Dubai, banks in Cyprus – they've always concentrated on banks in places like, say, Switzerland. They almost never look at these two other huge areas for money-laundering.
Here is a new interview with Sibel by Scott Horton:
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/horton.php?articleid=7032
It encompasses quite a bit more than just this snippet.
She is also hinting that this is the exact same kind of activity that is at the heart of the current AIPAC investigation. But she says there are several organizations such as them who are also involved in the same activities, including the American Turkish Council.
In case you didn't read the other interviews, one of the phone taps she translated had a foreign agent (Turkish) boasting that they had bought Dennis Hastert with roughly half a million dollars, to withdraw his leglislation that would condemn the Turkish genocide against the Armenians.
Basically, this is a network of several AIPAC spy rings, which have very high access to people in our government. She says uncovering the entirety of this story would make the AIPAC investigation look lame - basically because it is only a part of a larger pattern of this sort of criminal activity in Washington.
And for any doubters or nay-sayers, Senators and 9/11 Commission members have publicly stated that everything she says is credible, and she has over 20 other witnesses in the intelligence community who are willing to testify and corroborate her story. But she is under the biggest gag order in memory - maybe in our history - and even congressmen are not allowed to discuss her case.
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/horton.php?articleid=7032
It encompasses quite a bit more than just this snippet.
She is also hinting that this is the exact same kind of activity that is at the heart of the current AIPAC investigation. But she says there are several organizations such as them who are also involved in the same activities, including the American Turkish Council.
In case you didn't read the other interviews, one of the phone taps she translated had a foreign agent (Turkish) boasting that they had bought Dennis Hastert with roughly half a million dollars, to withdraw his leglislation that would condemn the Turkish genocide against the Armenians.
Basically, this is a network of several AIPAC spy rings, which have very high access to people in our government. She says uncovering the entirety of this story would make the AIPAC investigation look lame - basically because it is only a part of a larger pattern of this sort of criminal activity in Washington.
And for any doubters or nay-sayers, Senators and 9/11 Commission members have publicly stated that everything she says is credible, and she has over 20 other witnesses in the intelligence community who are willing to testify and corroborate her story. But she is under the biggest gag order in memory - maybe in our history - and even congressmen are not allowed to discuss her case.
SH: So let's get into some of that criminal activity then. The semi-legit organization that I think you are most often referring to is the American Turkish Council, which is headed by Brent Scowcroft, a former national security adviser of the United States, and is packed with the leaders of Raytheon, Motorola, Boeing, Lockheed, Martin Marietta, and some of the most powerful company names in the military-industrial complex.
SE: Correct.
SH: Is the ATC just one of many semi-legitimate organizations that you are referring to, or is most of this story focused on the ATC itself?
SE: There are many.
SH: And many organizations that you actually were overhearing?
SE: I cannot talk to you about what I was overhearing, but as I have pointed out there are several organizations.
