Chomsky on 911

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

http://blog.zmag.org/index.php/weblog/e ... 911_story/


his blog is damn good actually
lots of intersting topics

[ScooterG]

Awesome - thanks!

[seremtan]

excellent :icon14:

bono's quip that chomsky is a 'rebel without a pause' is pretty spot on (even though bono is otherwise a knob). chomsky seems to churn stuff out no-stop

other writings, audio and video of his can be found here also:

http://www.chomsky.info/

[Nightshade]

Nice find Puff.
Interesting mix of comments on that posting, some spot on and some a bit wacky.
Take the individual that says Bush caused 9/11. Conspiracies and alleged complicity aside, I think it's a rather short-sighted view. I see the real cause as years of aggressive foreign policy and usurpation of resources as the real cause.

[ScooterG]

I've always wondered whether it would be a blessing or a curse to be so intuitively aware of things.... I know he does a lot of research too, but his innate ideas are so bright.... I was really surprised by some things in "Manufacturing Consent." It really opened my eyes....

[R00k]

Nice find Puff.
Interesting mix of comments on that posting, some spot on and some a bit wacky.
Take the individual that says Bush caused 9/11. Conspiracies and alleged complicity aside, I think it's a rather short-sighted view. I see the real cause as years of aggressive foreign policy and usurpation of resources as the real cause.

Yea, but regardless of what you believe, it's hard to argue that we have twice elected a leader who personifies every one of our national qualities that caused the attacks to happen.

Our message to the world reminds me of George Clooney in "O Brother Where Art Thou." After John Goodman clubs him in the head with a tree limb, he just says, "No, Big Dan, I still don't get it."

You don't have to SEE the hit coming to KNOW it's coming, and why.

[rep]

Chomsky is funded by neocons.

[Nightshade]

Nice find Puff.
Interesting mix of comments on that posting, some spot on and some a bit wacky.
Take the individual that says Bush caused 9/11. Conspiracies and alleged complicity aside, I think it's a rather short-sighted view. I see the real cause as years of aggressive foreign policy and usurpation of resources as the real cause.

Yea, but regardless of what you believe, it's hard to argue that we have twice elected a leader who personifies every one of our national qualities that caused the attacks to happen.

Our message to the world reminds me of George Clooney in "O Brother Where Art Thou." After John Goodman clubs him in the head with a tree limb, he just says, "No, Big Dan, I still don't get it."

You don't have to SEE the hit coming to KNOW it's coming, and why.

Dude, every president that we've had for I don't know how long has been a scumbag of the first order. THAT'S the problem. It's not Bush per se, it's the entire system that ended up with us having a chimp for a president. Focusing on Bush is what I mean by failing to take the long view.

[R00k]

I'm talking about the oil-connected, Israel-worshipping, traitor-befriending, profit-hoarding, Saudi-supporting, poor-demonizing, wealth-worshipping, crusade-reinforcing, sack of steaming corruption that is the entire Bush family.

You can't say Clinton was in the same class as these guys - you can't even say Reagan was.

I agree with you on the long view as well - I just think that this is the first order of business, if there even is to be a long view.

[seremtan]

Nice find Puff.
Interesting mix of comments on that posting, some spot on and some a bit wacky.
Take the individual that says Bush caused 9/11. Conspiracies and alleged complicity aside, I think it's a rather short-sighted view. I see the real cause as years of aggressive foreign policy and usurpation of resources as the real cause.

Yea, but regardless of what you believe, it's hard to argue that we have twice elected a leader who personifies every one of our national qualities that caused the attacks to happen.

Our message to the world reminds me of George Clooney in "O Brother Where Art Thou." After John Goodman clubs him in the head with a tree limb, he just says, "No, Big Dan, I still don't get it."

You don't have to SEE the hit coming to KNOW it's coming, and why.

Dude, every president that we've had for I don't know how long has been a scumbag of the first order. THAT'S the problem. It's not Bush per se, it's the entire system that ended up with us having a chimp for a president. Focusing on Bush is what I mean by failing to take the long view.

exactimundo. i hate to sound like a hippie but IT'S THE SYSTEM, MAN. for a long time i've thought of bush as being no more than a glove puppet, what nietzsche i think called 'an actor of his own ideal'. which isn't to say that all US administrations are equally bad. clinton was marginally better than bush or reagan. fuck, even bush sr was better than bush jr - he was at least skeptical of the neocon agenda, though too much of an apparatchik to make a decent president

[R00k]

Listen, Cheney used to be Secretary of Defense. Rumsfeld used to serve in the 80s as well. The difference is, pricks like them weren't allowed to have free reign of national policy the way they do now, and there's one reason for that - our current president.

I share the opinion that shit floats to the surface in our presidential elections, and that fact has been apparent for decades now. But to use the status quo as a reason to deflect criticism from our current Deserter-in-Chief just doesn't make any sense at all to me.

[seremtan]

i think the point being made is that even if bush were to disappear off the face of the earth tomorrow, the policies and institutions would go on. that doesn't mean that if he DID disappear we wouldn't throw a party

[shadd_]

change happens. usually when normal everyday people finally decide they have had enough, it happens.

[Nightshade]

Listen, Cheney used to be Secretary of Defense. Rumsfeld used to serve in the 80s as well. The difference is, pricks like them weren't allowed to have free reign of national policy the way they do now, and there's one reason for that - our current president.

I share the opinion that shit floats to the surface in our presidential elections, and that fact has been apparent for decades now. But to use the status quo as a reason to deflect criticism from our current Deserter-in-Chief just doesn't make any sense at all to me.

I'm not trying to deflect criticism, I'm just saying see the whole forest, not just the incredibly stupid tree.

[JulesWinnfield]

Good read!