Vista video

Post by **rep** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:00 pm

http://www.myass.dk/WindowsVista-800x600-Pixels.swf

It lasts forever. I think they should fix the little search prompt on the start bar. Currently it just searches the start menu. If they made it search the entire system, it would be useful.

Post by **PhoeniX** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:03 pm

Why not jsut try it for yourself

Post by **Foo** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:05 pm

Gotta be honest there's nothing impressive to me there. I mean, there's nothing wrong with it, I just don't see how it justifies being a whole seperate release from XP.

Having said that, it's all talk about the gui atm and little about the actual operating of said system.

Post by **Don Carlos** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:10 pm

looks nice i spose...

Post by **Chupacabra** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:13 pm

what kind of specs do you need to run it smoothly?

Post by **o'dium** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:14 pm

I liek the way the windows sorta bend out when you close them. I like the new transparent look and the streamlined look of it all... But there just isn't enough new TBH, your right. Its just XP+

Post by **o'dium** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:17 pm

I have a couple of spare drives i may install it. Can it be burned to cd, like an iso, then installed? Or does it have to be installed over?

Post by **Dave** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:24 pm

Foo wrote:Gotta be honest there's nothing impressive to me there. I mean, there's nothing wrong with it, I just don't see how it justifies being a whole seperate release from XP.

Having said that, it's all talk about the gui atm and little about the actual operating of said system.

You're right, it doesn't really look different from XP, but there is a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes that you really don't see. I suspect that GUI is just a temp job (because it's hideous). My PCI GF MX 4000 won't even display the trasculcent effects. I don't have time go to through and analyze all the changes I see, but there is a lot more there than meets the eye

Post by **o'dium** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:26 pm

Hmmm... From waht I can tell, not only are the windows transparent and not only do they fade in/out with scale, and not only do they do that sort of slant thing whne you open/close them, but it also looks like (from what i can see) that anything not in focus (not clicked on) has some kind of blur going on...

Which is a tad pointless because what happens if your copying something...? O_o

Post by **PhoeniX** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:27 pm

o'dium wrote:I have a couple of spare drives i may install it. Can it be burned to cd, like an iso, then installed? Or does it have to be installed over?

DVD

Post by **o'dium** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:31 pm

PhoeniX wrote:
o'dium wrote:I have a couple of spare drives i may install it. Can it be burned to cd, like an iso, then installed? Or does it have to be installed over?
DVD

oh ok, cool, thats not a problem.

Post by **eepberries** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:35 pm

I hate that windows explorer style start menu. Also the transparency thing just looks stupid to me. Honestly, I don't see any point in upgrading to Vista anytime soon unless there's some great feature I haven't yet heard about.

Post by **o'dium** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:39 pm

eepberries wrote:I hate that windows explorer style start menu. Also the transparency thing just looks stupid to me. Honestly, I don't see any point in upgrading to Vista anytime soon unless there's some great feature I haven't yet heard about.

w3rd.

Post by **Iccy (temp)** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:39 pm

Hey, atleast we know regedit works right :\

So far its winXP with transparency upgrades. Nothing worth getting yet, but hey on the upside itll be a easy upgrade test for my MCSA.

Post by **MKJ** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 8:41 pm

hey look, a winstyle skin gone retail

Post by **rep** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:18 pm

Foo wrote:Gotta be honest there's nothing impressive to me there. I mean, there's nothing wrong with it, I just don't see how it justifies being a whole seperate release from XP.

Having said that, it's all talk about the gui atm and little about the actual operating of said system.

... OSX hasn't changed much at all.

Post by **rep** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:21 pm

o'dium wrote:Hmmm... From waht I can tell, not only are the windows transparent and not only do they fade in/out with scale, and not only do they do that sort of slant thing whne you open/close them, but it also looks like (from what i can see) that anything not in focus (not clicked on) has some kind of blur going on...

Which is a tad pointless because what happens if your copying something...? O_o

The clear parts blur what is behind them for a reason... If it were 100% clear, you'd have a lot of accidental clicks.

There is a lot more to come. The entire Vista interface runs on DirectX 10. Everything is 3D... It's just presented in a familiar pseudo 2D format.

Post by **o'dium** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:23 pm

Hold on, its JUST whats behind a window? If so thats ok, i thought it was the entire desktop except for what your looking at.

Post by **horton** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:24 pm

well it looks pretty, but i turned off all the nice looking features on XP, so I see little point.

All i require is something stable and fast.

Post by **glossy** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:30 pm

looks shit, as usual. I'll stick with XP.

And not including WinFS?

Post by **Foo** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:31 pm

eepberries wrote:I hate that windows explorer style start menu. Also the transparency thing just looks stupid to me. Honestly, I don't see any point in upgrading to Vista anytime soon unless there's some great feature I haven't yet heard about.

Easy. It'll have full 64-bit support, continuing security upgrades, newer hardware will run fastest on it, and new PCs will ship with it.

So you won't need to upgrade, but you'll want to.

Post by **rep** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:33 pm

Iccy (temp) wrote:So far its winXP with transparency upgrades. Nothing worth getting yet, but hey on the upside itll be a easy upgrade test for my MCSA.

It has instant searching over the entire hard drive, and nearly the same speed over networked Vista PCs... For example, if you were searching a folder of a downloaded Q3W page, as you type it would look like this:

rep (rep, replicator, replicant, reply, reptile, etc.)
repl (replicator, replicant, reply, etc.)
repli (replicator, replicant, etc.)
replijajaja (no results)

From what I've seen and heard, it blows Spotlight out of the water.

WinFS is going to be released in Vista SP1. That's a goody.

When you run a game, Vista unloads... It's almost like quitting Windows 95, booting in DOS, and running a game. You get more power devoted to the game. It's instantaneous... In fact, for DirectX games, since the API is already initialized, when you open a DX game you won't have that three second mode change wait.

You can connect more than one IP to the same PC... It's strange, but logical. If you have fast internet such as cable, and multiple IP addresses, usually the cable company (since Docsis2.0 and 3.0 modems have an incredible throughput anyway) limits your bandwidth per IP... This is why if you have 4 IP addresses, each can possibly be downloading at the full 7MB/s speed because it's not 7MB/s divided by 4, it's 4 individual allowances of 7MB/s. I think my modem gets 40MB/s or a little higher. I'll have to check sometime.

ANYWAY, you can now daisy chain your connections to the same PC. A lot of motherboards already have multiple ethernet connections. Apparently with Vista it's as simple as installing another NIC and plugging it into your router, and then going into network properties and click on 'slipstream connection' or whatever marketing name they've given it.

Post by **rep** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:37 pm

horton wrote:well it looks pretty, but i turned off all the nice looking features on XP, so I see little point.

All i require is something stable and fast.

Vista runs on DirectX 10. The visual effects use less than 1% of system resources. WinHEC 2003 or 2004 demonstrated this in an early early build of Longhorn that was still using Windows Graphics Foundation. DX10 is even better. I'm going to leave everything turned on. It's not like it'll matter even if it did take more than 1% of system resources (That 1% figure is actually from a CPU that was running at half the speed of what we'll have when Vista comes out.)

Edit: Since DX10 is a major part of the operating system and it's always on, perhaps this will lead to 3D finally hitting the net in a big way?

Post by **glossy** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:43 pm

Rep, why do you think a 'real' 3d interface is going to be so good and groundbreaking? Personally, we're still using 1- and 2-dimentional input peripherals, so i think it'll be cumbersome. Plus, microsoft haven't ever really come out with anything ground-breaking in the UI department

Post by **eepberries** » Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:44 pm

rep wrote: Edit: Since DX10 is a major part of the operating system and it's always on, perhaps this will lead to 3D finally hitting the net in a big way?

Why? :icon29:

Until we get 3d hologram monitors, I don't see any point.