What a clown (Opera stuff)

Post by **rep** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:06 pm

"You know what would be a nice feature for Mozilla Firefox (Or any tab-based browser for that matter)? The ability to "tear off" a tabbed page and make it a floating window. That is, you should be able to "grab" a tab in Firefox and then drag it off to the side, where it would open in its own window. The reverse should also be true: You should be able to consolidate separate windows into tabs in a single window."
-Paul Thurrott's blog.

Opera has had this feature for years. Just grab the tab and drag it out of Opera, OR right click a link and open in a new window.

:\ Looks like he's an expert on tabbed browsing... As long as the only tabbed browsers are the latest to add the feature after years of it being available, Firefox and Internet Explorer 7.0! :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Post by **PhoeniX** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:07 pm

Yea, but Opera isn't free, technically :lol: roflowned!

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:07 pm

Post by **shiznit** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:07 pm

Fuck off rep no one cares and Opera has shity tab order, it's the last one you had open. Fucking gay.

Post by **rep** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:09 pm

Opera is free. http://www.opera.com

It's not like Firefox is any more free. You see a Firefox banner on every other nerd's website these days. I like the peace I get from only having to install when I want new features, like the integrated BitTorrent downloads that Opera has.

Firefox is the new IE. "Malicious bug gives hackers the ability to take over your PC and kill you: Update now." -Firefoxupdate.microsoft.com :lol:

Post by **shiznit** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:09 pm

:icon19: Fat nerd.

Post by **rep** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:12 pm

By the way, if I ever want to find something on Q3W I just hit F2 and type "Q3W" and what words I want to search for in posts. Same thing with IGN, Yahoo News (YN), AP Newswire (AP), and anything else I want to add to my search.ini.

Ownedpera.

:lol:

Post by **dzjepp** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:12 pm

Rep how many times did you hug your doggy tonite from fears of suicidal thoughts? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Post by **rep** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:13 pm

Three. One, two, three. Crunch.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:14 pm

Post by **booker** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:14 pm

rep wrote:Opera is free. http://www.opera.com

It's not like Firefox is any more free.

Post by **rep** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:17 pm

The cost of open source programs that steal the innovations of other companies is enormous.

The end user ends up paying more in the end. I'd be all for open source if it was original stuff they were doing, or if it was a project that was commercial and decided to switch to open source, or if it was a project that was commercial but then was bought by an entity that then released the code as a project in the open source community.

The problem is, open source will harm the PC software market unless every single program is open source and every person is using open source applications.

Example:

Henry Ford: I invented an automobile that is easy to produce and affordable! This is great!
Public: We agree! Give us this Model T.
20 years pass
Nerd: I've copied Ford's Model T, and now you can have it for free.
Henry Ford: Errrrr... You can't do that.
Nerd: Too late, the torrents are already out. Bahaha.
20 years pass
Henry Ford: Competing with these nerds is costing a lot of money. I guess I'll have to fire the Detroit plant. Sorry fellas.

Post by **^misantropia^** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:18 pm

rep wrote:Opera is free. http://www.opera.com

It's not like Firefox is any more free.

Look up the meaning of 'open source'.

rep wrote:I like the peace I get from only having to install when I want new features, like the integrated BitTorrent downloads that Opera has.

Why would you use a crappy built-in client when there's Azureus or the mainline client?

Post by **PhoeniX** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:19 pm

rep wrote:Opera is free. http://www.opera.com

It's not like Firefox is any more free. You see a Firefox banner on every other nerd's website these days. I like the peace I get from only having to install when I want new features, like the integrated BitTorrent downloads that Opera has.

Firefox is the new IE. "Malicious bug gives hackers the ability to take over your PC and kill you: Update now." -Firefoxupdate.microsoft.com :lol:

No it's not. It's not open source, and it features a huge banner, which you're meant to pay to remove, or in 99% of peoples case would result in having to look for a patch to remove it.

But I do actually like the 'window in a window' feature, it's possible pretty easilly to code something that does it, maybe Firefox will sometime.

Post by **rep** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:22 pm

^misantropia^ wrote:Why would you use a crappy built-in client when there's Azureus or the mainline client?

It's crappy? Thanks for judging a beta product. :lol: You're one of the ones that said Daikatana was going to be the end all be all FPS, right?

More features will be added to it to streamline the built in BT, and it should never become like a BT application. It's just there so everyone can download files on this protocol. Many game demos and other large files are distributed via bittorrent (See: Doom 3 demo, Opera 8) and it's an obvious choice to support it so the average PC user can take advantage of the downloads.

Post by **rep** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:24 pm

PhoeniX wrote:No it's not. It's not open source, and it features a huge banner, which you're meant to pay to remove, or in 99% of peoples case would result in having to look for a patch to remove it.

But I do actually like the 'window in a window' feature, it's possible pretty easilly to code something that does it, maybe Firefox will sometime.

Oh my god, you have to pay for a superior product? That means you'd have to leave your parent's basement and get a job! Christ, the pressure!

I'm sure Firefox will add it because that project has made a name for itself by copying features from better browsers.

Post by **^misantropia^** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:26 pm

rep wrote:
^misantropia^ wrote:Why would you use a crappy built-in client when there's Azureus or the mainline client?
It's crappy? Thanks for judging a beta product. :lol:

Okay, you've got a point there. Call back when it has all the features Azureus has.

Post by **PhoeniX** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:27 pm

rep wrote:
PhoeniX wrote:No it's not. It's not open source, and it features a huge banner, which you're meant to pay to remove, or in 99% of peoples case would result in having to look for a patch to remove it.

But I do actually like the 'window in a window' feature, it's possible pretty easilly to code something that does it, maybe Firefox will sometime.
Oh my god, you have to pay for a superior product? That means you'd have to leave your parent's basement and get a job! Christ, the pressure!

I'm sure Firefox will add it because that project has made a name for itself by copying features from better browsers.

Shock horror I could if i wanted pay for it, but why should I when I can get an alternative product for free?

a.b.w.i-p.0-day !

Post by **feedback** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 9:32 pm

lol yeah you show that nerd, fucking nerd

Post by **glossy** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:00 pm

even if Opera was free, i probably wouldn't use it -- it has nothing to offer me over any other browser

Post by **Chupacabra** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:01 pm

rep wrote:The cost of open source programs that steal the innovations of other companies is enormous.

The end user ends up paying more in the end. I'd be all for open source if it was original stuff they were doing, or if it was a project that was commercial and decided to switch to open source, or if it was a project that was commercial but then was bought by an entity that then released the code as a project in the open source community.

The problem is, open source will harm the PC software market unless every single program is open source and every person is using open source applications.

Example:

Henry Ford: I invented an automobile that is easy to produce and affordable! This is great!
Public: We agree! Give us this Model T.
20 years pass
Nerd: I've copied Ford's Model T, and now you can have it for free.
Henry Ford: Errrrr... You can't do that.
Nerd: Too late, the torrents are already out. Bahaha.
20 years pass
Henry Ford: Competing with these nerds is costing a lot of money. I guess I'll have to fire the Detroit plant. Sorry fellas.

If you are increasing the general welfare of the public, how is this harming them?

If 10% of the population is able to get a Model T, how is that better than 100% of the population being able to get it? You're actually improving everyone's lifestyle and welfare.

Also, if we look at your example, if they cant come up with something innovative, new and "super engineered" in 40 years, it makes sense for them to shut down.

If you want to argue that "oh the economy will be destroyed" or something, that is not necessarily true. The strong, innovative companies will survive and keep chugging out better and better products. If your product is really that badass, it'll be fine e.g. adobe photoshop. Remember, there will always be people/companies/firms out there that look at something, think they can make it better and then sell it. The push for innovation will always be there.

Also, I think historically speaking open source has pushed for better software and products. It hasnt trimmed innovation. Take for example Windows vs. Linux. As more people adopt linux and like its security features, MS improves and makes windows a better product, even taking in mind what supporters of the open source desire, like, and deem important.

Post by **Foo** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:10 pm

haha. this was a pretty good troll.

Post by **glossy** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:12 pm

Foo wrote:haha. this was a pretty good troll.

youre a good troll :icon33:

Post by **dzjepp** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:13 pm