Ok, i need this OS...

Post by **l0g1c** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:47 pm

It's surprising how utilitarian everyone has become. C'mon, you know you want flippy transparent 3d windows!

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:03 pm

ah, the difference between someone who gets things done on a computer and those that do not.

Post by **^misantropia^** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:17 pm

Pext wrote:plus i think, multiple desktops are not really usefull. it's just some thing that linux nerd can list as an advantage over windows...

Disagreed. I often have 10-20 windows open. It's very nice to have them not clutter the taskbar and task switcher (if you configure your window manager right - the braindead config you get with most distros still lists all windows).

However, I can understand it not being too newbie-friendly: I've seen (fairly apt) Windows users struggle with the concept for the better part of an hour when they were working on my Debian box.

Post by **rep** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:46 am

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:ah, the difference between someone who gets things done on a computer and those that do not.

:lol: True. There is a difference between classy visualization that doesn't get in the way, while still innovating just enough to evolve computing to a new level (Longhorn) and eye candy.

Pext wrote:plus i think, multiple desktops are not really usefull. it's just some thing that linux nerd can list as an advantage over windows...

That's very true. I can't imagine virtual desktops as being useful unless you have a very low resolution monitor that is VGA or smaller.

Post by **Canidae** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 5:49 am

diego wrote:*avoids bumpmapping-joke*

I think it looks incredible, but: Will it ever be useful? I mean, I dont wanna be a party pooper here, but what is the real advantage of using 3D-objects on your desktop/in applications?

Ask Bill Gates since this will be integral to Longhorn

Post by **Geebs** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:04 am

Anyone in the UK should check out those Open University programmes on "what interfaces will be like in the future" that are still playing now even though they're about 8 years old. There was a great one on a setup where you needed both a mouse and a trackball to control the interface...

Post by **rep** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:03 am

Actually, here's the real future computer environment:

Imagine a crystal ball, except no glass.

Imagine a 3D space that has a radius of a few feet, and you can reach into that 'display' with your hands and manipulate documents. There could possibly be force feedback gloves you wear if you want a more tactile experience, and maybe whenever safe force fields are invented, they would be used...

So going online to buy a camera wouldn't be like visiting that camera's site today, it would be something like, you think about the words Canon Cameras which would make the subvocal sensors react, sending you to Canon's information center. It would be no different than if you were to talk to a Canon worker. You would get all the information about specifications from them. You would be able to hold the camera to see if you liked it or not.

Imagine a picture gallery in this sort of environment. You could literally get rid of file formats and have a shoe box full of prints like everyone seems to have.

To make a document, you could do one of three things: Dictate a formal letter via voice, create a formal business class document with familiar means, or grab a sheet of paper (this is all a 3D illusion) from the 3D stack, grab the 3D pen, and write a love letter to me.

"Why not record a 3D video or hold a live 3D conference?" I think documents will stay around for quite some time.

Post by **Magnetichead** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:11 am

So odium, is this going to be the best OS ever? Is it going to leave all other OS' crying in the dust?

Can we assume you will be porting all your existing projects to this OS?

Post by **Foo** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 11:26 am

rep wrote:So going online to buy a camera wouldn't be like visiting that camera's site today, it would be something like, you think about the words Canon Cameras which would make the subvocal sensors react, sending you to Canon's information center. It would be no different than if you were to talk to a Canon worker. You would get all the information about specifications from them. You would be able to hold the camera to see if you liked it or not.

...and every six seconds a naked woman flashes up and starts to frig herself.

I'm not sure a neural inteface would be usable by the average guy

Post by **glossy** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:50 pm

Foo wrote:
rep wrote:So going online to buy a camera wouldn't be like visiting that camera's site today, it would be something like, you think about the words Canon Cameras which would make the subvocal sensors react, sending you to Canon's information center. It would be no different than if you were to talk to a Canon worker. You would get all the information about specifications from them. You would be able to hold the camera to see if you liked it or not.
...and every six seconds a naked woman flashes up and starts to frig herself.

I'm not sure a neural inteface would be usable by the average guy

actually, i think this kind of scenario would be much easier to use by your average computer-illiterate, since there's nothing unfamiliar. if you want something, ask for it in english, then act as you normally would.

pity by the time it's viable, it'll be 2050, and it'll be inversed -- everyone will be very comfortable with computers and the familiar interfaces, so treating a computer as 'real life' would be 'wierd' and uncomfortable.

Post by **Iccy (temp)** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 3:38 pm

But what you all forget is that its moves like this that break through new land. For example, picture this technology coupled with say, virutal reality.

Picture a 3d interactive enviroment you are in with goggles and gloves, a world your looking around in and moving these ojects within. Imagine the world of " Snow Crash " and maybe what your seeing in that video is the first steps to that imaginary world becoming real.

Me personaly thats what im waiting for, when VR and high res 3d interactive enviroments come together the technology world is going to explode. Imagine having a cup of tea with your family in US while your in china on business, a fully interactive, realiticly rendered enviroment. Imagine playing World of Warcraft inside the game, instead of objectivly, playing battlefield inside a stadium where you all are in goggles and gloves jacked into the cyber universe.

A small step toward that future maybe, but exciting to me.