I wanna be strong like batman

[bork[e]]

Back in 2000 or 1999 I ripped a muscle in my arm pretty bad, wasn't bad enough to need surgery but stopped me from playing baseball like I was and send me on my way to a happy 1 1/2 year thearopy course.

After that it was fine and working the way it should, so I played until my Junior year of highschool. Around that time I started noticing my rotator cuff giving me problems. Would become much more sore that it had before, random sharp pain ect... So I just quit playing after that year.

Anyway, since then I haven't touched a weight or done any kind of exercise at all. So here I am almost 19 at 5'7" 134 pounds. Would very much like to gain a good amount of muscle starting this year.

So...think there is anything to worry about with that cuff. Nothing ever came of it and it hasn't bothered me since, though I haven't done a damn thing either. Any good exercise I should do to build up that area first, or just play it by ear...

What's the best way to build a noticeable amount of muscle that's not going to take all year...mainly upper body. I'm not trying to jump right in and expect to be huge this month, but I would like to see some results somewhat fast.

Don't wanna take any kind of roid, but any other item I could grab from GNC (isn't that the weigh building store?) to help me along the way?

[saturn]

Start with push ups every fucking morning.

[tnf]

Training threads!
noo..

Someone here will be able to give you the necessary information. If it is a pure gain in mass you want, you will need to focus on basic, heavy movements with plenty of rest and a LOT of food (the right kinds of food).

Are you going to a gym? What kind of equipment do you have access to?

[sys0p]

No roids? Simple: 16 I.U's of GH a day with 4-6 I.U's of Insulin. Overstimulate the Thyroid with some T3, and inject pure vitamin b12 to increase your appetite.

6000 calories a day and a multivitamin and you'll blow up.

Glad I could help.

[tnf]

And watch for a bloated tortoise-shell gut.

[saturn]

lol sysop you fucking freak

[tnf]

And sys0p, its really interesting to read that post and contrast it with the very first training email you sent me like 3 or so years ago. You've come a long way...heh.

[bork[e]]

Gym, no.

I bought some equipment from a friend for about $20.

Got a bench press table with the leg items at the end of the table. Where you put your legs in a push up.

Then I got this big ass thing that touches my ceiling that I can do many things on, I'll have to find a pic of something close cause I couldn't begin to explain what it does, I could hardly explain what my bench press thing had attached to it.

[tnf]

Get some resistance bands - they are cheap and versatile for a variety of exercises.

[bork[e]]

No roids? Simple: 16 I.U's of GH a day with 4-6 I.U's of Insulin. Overstimulate the Thyroid with some T3, and inject pure vitamin b12 to increase your appetite.

6000 calories a day and a multivitamin and you'll blow up.

Glad I could help.

That sounds like I'll be in a comma in a few weeks no.

[tnf]

no, you'd be fine.

[tnf]

And it is pretty hard to be in one of these --> ,

[sys0p]

And sys0p, its really interesting to read that post and contrast it with the very first training email you sent me like 3 or so years ago. You've come a long way...heh.

Yeah, 3 years ago I had no idea that you could bypass Cholesterol->Pregnenolone->17-Hydroxypregnenolone->Dehydropiandrosterone->Androstenediol->Testosterone and go straight to testosterone with a simple injection.

I used to be such a sucker. Never again.

[bork[e]]

And it is pretty hard to be in one of these --> ,

:icon26:

I've got a shit load of those bands you are talking about, prolly to old to strech much but the doc gave me a box of 'em when my elbow shat out on me. I'm sure they are not exactly what you're talking about but they serve the same purpose.

[tnf]

heh.

Yea, and now do you see why people got suckered in to buying all the androstendione as a 'steroid replacement' even thought it really didn't do much at all?

No substitute for the real thing.

[tnf]

And it is pretty hard to be in one of these --> ,

:icon26:

I've got a shit load of those bands you are talking about, prolly to old to strech much but the doc gave me a box of 'em when my elbow shat out on me. I'm sure they are not exactly what you're talking about but they serve the same purpose.

If they are physical therapy ones, they are probably just sheets of a rubber like material with very little resistance. THat's what I got for PT. But I could be wrong.

I'm talking about stuff like these - and you can find some that allow you to hook multiple bands up to get a lot of resistance...search the web and you'll find a TON of workouts tailored to resistance band training.


There are all sorts here -
http://store.titlesports.com/titlesport ... ining.html

[sys0p]

Yeah, I smirked the other day when I saw Dorian Yates' protein powder. It's called "pro-peptide".. He's the first guy to invent a peptide that doesn't get broken down in the stomach. He should sell his secrets to insulin manafacturers and save all those poor diabetics from having to inject everyday.

The bastard.

[saturn]

A peptide or even a pro-peptide is different from a protein molecule like insulin. How would that work when it's absorbed? (if it's absorbed as a whole protein)

[sys0p]

Well that's what I mean.. If it enters the stomach, the amino chain is broken down. Which is one reason why people can't drink insulin. But there's a really popular bodybuilding supplement comapny called "Dorian Yates' approved" that calls one of it's most expensive protein shakes "pro-peptide"..

I didn't think a peptide could be taken orally because it gets broken down in the didgestive system before it can be absorbed as a full chain.

[GONNAFISTYA]

And sys0p, its really interesting to read that post and contrast it with the very first training email you sent me like 3 or so years ago. You've come a long way...heh.

Yeah, 3 years ago I had no idea that you could bypass Cholesterol->Pregnenolone->17-Hydroxypregnenolone->Dehydropiandrosterone->Androstenediol->Testosterone and go straight to testosterone with a simple injection.

I used to be such a sucker. Never again.

Why don't you just go all the way and become a pharmacist? You'd get free condoms.

[bork[e]]

If they are physical therapy ones, they are probably just sheets of a rubber like material with very little resistance. THat's what I got for PT. But I could be wrong.

Yeah, that's what I have...will check into getting some you mentioned.

[saturn]

Well that's what I mean.. If it enters the stomach, the amino chain is broken down. Which is one reason why people can't drink insulin. But there's a really popular bodybuilding supplement comapny called "Dorian Yates' approved" that calls one of it's most expensive protein shakes "pro-peptide"..

I didn't think a peptide could be taken orally because it gets broken down in the didgestive system before it can be absorbed as a full chain.

let's summarize....proteins and peptides are broken down in the stomach and duodenum to become amino acids which are absorbed in the intestines. Proteins are poly-peptides. Peptides are poly-amino acids.

I've never heard of pro-peptides before, nevermind that. I've learned about pro-enzymes that need alteration to become full functional enzymes. So pro-peptides have some kind of structure that they can't be broken down by stomach acid and enzymes. They still need some alteration before they can be absorbed.

Insulin is a protein, it only works in its unaltered state which cannot be achieved through oral passage. If it could be administered orally, they would have done it years ago.

But your post made me curious, I need to open some books again on biochemistry. btw, props for your knowledge on cholesterol to testerone, that's an intricate pathway.

[tnf]

Yeah, I smirked the other day when I saw Dorian Yates' protein powder. It's called "pro-peptide".. He's the first guy to invent a peptide that doesn't get broken down in the stomach. He should sell his secrets to insulin manafacturers and save all those poor diabetics from having to inject everyday.

The bastard.

Dorian must be quite a biochemist. I remember a creatine supplement that included the three amino acids that are used to synthesize creatine, as if taking in these amino acids in addition to creatine supplementation will prevent the body from ceasing its own creatine production upon supplementation.

Just having the raw materials for a given molecule does not mean that your body will start to synthesize it. The body doesn't sit there and go...'shit, I've got some extra methionine, arginine and glycine...I better make more creatine!"

[tnf]

Well that's what I mean.. If it enters the stomach, the amino chain is broken down. Which is one reason why people can't drink insulin. But there's a really popular bodybuilding supplement comapny called "Dorian Yates' approved" that calls one of it's most expensive protein shakes "pro-peptide"..

I didn't think a peptide could be taken orally because it gets broken down in the didgestive system before it can be absorbed as a full chain.

let's summarize....proteins and peptides are broken down in the stomach and duodenum to become amino acids which are absorbed in the intestines. Proteins are poly-peptides. Peptides are poly-amino acids.

I've never heard of pro-peptides before, nevermind that. I've learned about pro-enzymes that need alteration to become full functional enzymes. So pro-peptides have some kind of structure that they can't be broken down by stomach acid and enzymes. They still need some alteration before they can be absorbed.

Insulin is a protein, it only works in its unaltered state which cannot be achieved through oral passage. If it could be administered orally, they would have done it years ago.

But your post made me curious, I need to open some books again on biochemistry. btw, props for your knowledge on cholesterol to testerone, that's an intricate pathway.

Yates is probably calling it a pro-peptide because he is advertising it as an precursor to something else...ignoring the fact that it will be broken down into constituent amino acids anyhow.

[saturn]

Maybe if you have a lot of muscle breakdown then those amino acids would come in handy.