Microsoft buying Gator....Gator malware not blocked now

Post by **Giraffe }{unter** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:38 pm

Freakaloin wrote:ad-aware never misses anything...why use multiple programs when one gets em all? wait i know...cuz ur a moron...

ignorance is bliss

Post by **Kn0wFuRy** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:39 pm

dzjepp wrote:
Underpants? wrote::lol:

edit: am I the only person who doesn't use antispyware anymore? Well, I guess if you're going to have massive casual inter-sex you should always wear an e-condom... mostly, I think antispyware and antivirus software is a band-aid approach to a continuously evolving problem.
periodically check your registry, view the objects cached in the temp settings and shut the fuck up, wankers.
Yeah, I'm gonna go digging deep into the million+ registry tree manually and look for stuff...

Or I can fire up one of the antispyware tools once a month and see if anything new is infected... which usually is not.

Right? :icon30:

Post by **Giraffe }{unter** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:42 pm

Etrust PestPatrol is the one that seems to be one of the heavy hitters in the "Pay" market

Post by **Kn0wFuRy** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:49 pm

Giraffe }{unter wrote:
Underpants? wrote:Shaft }{unter :lol:
OMG that's actually a new one :icon14:

LOL, don't you love new ones? I get bored with all the same old ones I get called.

Post by **Kn0wFuRy** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:52 pm

I am liking this thread. I really wish I knew more. :icon15: :icon14:

Post by **Freakaloin** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:11 pm

is this that ugly bitch that post here? ^^^

Post by **R00k** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:12 pm

There is not just one that will catch everything. If you're only using one, you're missing things.

Post by **Underpants?** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:24 pm

Kn0wFuRy wrote:I am liking this thread. I really wish I knew more. :icon15: :icon14:

hey there what's this, a stranger?

Post by **Underpants?** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 11:25 pm

Freakaloin wrote:is this that ugly bitch that post here? ^^^

jelluz, man-bitch?

Post by **Kn0wFuRy** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:05 am

Underpants? wrote:
Kn0wFuRy wrote:I am liking this thread. I really wish I knew more. :icon15: :icon14:
hey there what's this, a stranger?

Hello : )

Sup with you?

Post by **Kn0wFuRy** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:08 am

R00k wrote:There is not just one that will catch everything. If you're only using one, you're missing things.

That has been my experience, too. I have used SB S&D (it has been a favorite), adaware, the MS stuff, and all kinds of registry cleaners. I don't have a lot of real knowledge. I do know to stay away from a lot of things---the problem is that my kids don't and sooner or later I always seem to walk away from the pc with my user open.

Post by **eepberries** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 12:21 am

Bwahahahah Gator

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 2:44 am

Giraffe }{unter wrote:
Iccy (temp) wrote:
Giraffe }{unter wrote:no doubt it works, just not as well as other apps.
What other apps work better then adaware. I work with spyware removal all day, im in it pretty deep. I would like to know what you use thats so good so maybe i can use it.
As for the "Pay" programs I do not remember what ones beat the pants off adaware, I'll get that info later for you.

As for the freebies...

I use a cocktail of Spybot, MS Antispy + advanced tools + System Explorer, Hijack this, Symantec Antivirus Corporate's expanded threat scan, and a registry search. All done in safe mode, and I do not reboot until I know I killed them all.

I google all things found my SAV's expanded threat scan and use the removal tools/instructions, to makke sure everything is out.

I have only come across one that I decided to format... but that's only because the user had 1.4MB of data to backup

some of you guys are so fucking paranoid.

Post by **a13n** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:44 am

At least we should watch out quite a few conspiracies to lead us to buy unnecessary(out-of-purpose) softwares via legal violence or threatening. :icon34:

Post by **Cooldown** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:33 am

According to this PC MAG article, Spy Doctor 3.2 is currently the best Anti-Spyware software. I'm going to give it a try. Currently, I have Ad-Aware and SpyBoy installed and a few other programs that I run every now and then. I've been using Ms Antispyware beta lately, it's the only one I have running in the background.

EDIT: Spyware Doctor seems to be the best unfortunately it's not free

Post by **Freakaloin** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 10:48 am

lol...pcmag eh? i'm convinced...rofl...moron...

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 4:37 pm

Dr_Watson wrote:
Giraffe }{unter wrote:
Iccy (temp) wrote: What other apps work better then adaware. I work with spyware removal all day, im in it pretty deep. I would like to know what you use thats so good so maybe i can use it.
As for the "Pay" programs I do not remember what ones beat the pants off adaware, I'll get that info later for you.

As for the freebies...

I use a cocktail of Spybot, MS Antispy + advanced tools + System Explorer, Hijack this, Symantec Antivirus Corporate's expanded threat scan, and a registry search. All done in safe mode, and I do not reboot until I know I killed them all.

I google all things found my SAV's expanded threat scan and use the removal tools/instructions, to makke sure everything is out.

I have only come across one that I decided to format... but that's only because the user had 1.4MB of data to backup
some of you guys are so fucking paranoid.

sounds like it.

Post by **Giraffe }{unter** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 3:22 am

Dr_Watson wrote:
some of you guys are so fucking paranoid.

I wouldn't call it paranoia when you're constantly unfucking computers that are mucking up a VLANs bandwidth with ad-related traffic. I spend a few hours a week cleaning computers of dumb users who cannot seem to grasp the concept of safe web habbits.

My PC is running SAV Corporate and MS antispy I don't really scan it because it's done for me at 2am and always seems to find nadaa...

Post by **Denz** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:33 am

Cooldown wrote:According to this PC MAG article, Spy Doctor 3.2 is currently the best Anti-Spyware software. I'm going to give it a try. Currently, I have Ad-Aware and SpyBoy installed and a few other programs that I run every now and then. I've been using Ms Antispyware beta lately, it's the only one I have running in the background.

EDIT: Spyware Doctor seems to be the best unfortunately it's not free

I will give it a shot, next week there will be something new out that's better than all the rest.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:39 am

Giraffe }{unter wrote:
Dr_Watson wrote:
some of you guys are so fucking paranoid.

I wouldn't call it paranoia when you're constantly unfucking computers that are mucking up a VLANs bandwidth with ad-related traffic. I spend a few hours a week cleaning computers of dumb users who cannot seem to grasp the concept of safe web habbits.

My PC is running SAV Corporate and MS antispy I don't really scan it because it's done for me at 2am and always seems to find nadaa...

i'm thinking that your users do not need full internet access to perform their jobs fully. that would save loads of headaches.

Post by **Giraffe }{unter** » Sun Jul 10, 2005 1:35 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
Giraffe }{unter wrote:
Dr_Watson wrote:
some of you guys are so fucking paranoid.

I wouldn't call it paranoia when you're constantly unfucking computers that are mucking up a VLANs bandwidth with ad-related traffic. I spend a few hours a week cleaning computers of dumb users who cannot seem to grasp the concept of safe web habbits.

My PC is running SAV Corporate and MS antispy I don't really scan it because it's done for me at 2am and always seems to find nadaa...
i'm thinking that your users do not need full internet access to perform their jobs fully. that would save loads of headaches.

True but most of out sales team works from home. We have alot of high-paid pre-madonnas working for the company. You take away their net access and it will be alot of lonely nights in the hotel without Pr0N

Post by **Giraffe }{unter** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:02 pm

Microsoft is moving to quash claims that its antispyware tool is now giving preferential treatment to adware maker Claria.

The beta version of Microsoft AntiSpyware previously recommended that users quarantine several products from Claria, but this changed last week.

According to a statement published by Microsoft, the downgrade in threat level merely represents an effort to be "fair and consistent with how Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) handles similar software from other vendors."

The news comes at a sensitive time, as Microsoft is reportedly in acquisition talks with Claria.

The statement notes that Claria, previously known as Gator, asked Microsoft in January to review AntiSpyware's classification of its products. Redmond apparently decided that continued detection was still appropriate--but that it would give users the choice whether or not to remove Claria software. This was a change from the previous policy in which AntiSpyware recommended users remove Claria products.

"All software is reviewed under the same objective criteria, detection policies and analysis process," Microsoft said. "Absolutely no exceptions were made for Claria.

"Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) continues to notify our users when Claria software is found on a computer, and it offers our users the option to remove the software if they desire...We firmly believe that people should have complete control over what runs on their computers."

Source:http://news.com.com/Microsoft+denies+its+antispyware+favors+Claria/2100-1029_3-5782848.html

Post by **R00k** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:54 pm

In other words, "Listen, we are a large company with lots of business and political ties, and we have to listen to complaints by companies who think their trojans are being treated unfairly - especially if we're considering buying them. If you want software that will really get rid of everything you didn't put on your PC intentionally, then you best go find some from a development team that doesn't owe anyone anything, and writes the software simply because they want the same thing you do."

Post by **Giraffe }{unter** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:56 pm

if that's your interpretation then yes, exactly.

Post by **Cool Blue** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 5:35 pm

Giraffe }{unter wrote: True but most of out sales team works from home. We have alot of high-paid pre-madonnas working for the company. You take away their net access and it will be alot of lonely nights in the hotel without Pr0N

I have a great solution for that.

Give them a mobile VPN appliance that automatically connects them to the home network from where ever they are via a secure VPN connection. That way all traffic is directed through your head office network, which can be more easily configured to filter standard inappropriate sites.

I do this all the time for my clients. Works great, and it actually simplifies the adminstrators life, by having their corporate policies managed in one place. No more having to dick with single users with unique needs. Just connect them to the office network and force down all the same local policies. Cake and you don't have to change anything on your network. Just setup the end users with the appliances.

PM me if you want to know more, I can link you to the exact appliances i'm referring to. They're cost effective, and easy to use. :icon14: