steam prevents me from buying hl2

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:06 am

schlockey wrote:I dont really care either way. I have internet, as for people that dont, its a pain in the ass if they want to play any games released by the company.

Sure they can get internet in the sticks, but what if they dont want to pay for internet just for Steam? I know i wouldnt want to pay $12 or whatever it is a month just to play Half Life 2.

Half life 2, CS Source, And all the HL mods that are out and comming out..

Post by **schlockey** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:09 am

Still isnt worth $12. Mods used to be free. You have to love capitalism.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:11 am

schlockey wrote:Still isnt worth $12. Mods used to be free. You have to love capitalism.

Mods are still free..

Steam, has an offline mode.. so you have to connect ONCE.. big whoop.. so you get a freebie netzero for a month and set up steam ONE TIME..

o_O

Post by **schlockey** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:13 am

Well now. No one mentioned that, but you still felt the need to try and make me seem like a stupid idiot. I have never installed Steam and dont plan on it. I was never really overly interested in Half Life 2, or any recent releases really, besides WoW.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:14 am

schlockey wrote:Well now. No one mentioned that, but you still felt the need to try and make me seem like a stupid idiot. I have never installed Steam and dont plan on it. I was never really overly interested in Half Life 2, or any recent releases really, besides WoW.

Yet youll pay 15 a month for WoW? and not 12 a month for internet for everything else?

Make sense much?

Post by **schlockey** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:16 am

I said if someone lived in the sticks and didnt want internet but HAD to have it for Steam it makes no sense. I dont have to worry about that because i have an internet connect and dont live in the woods.

On the other note, yes, i would rather pay $15 a month to play WoW over $12 to play Half Life 2, and it seems like you would as well, 347 hours is alot of time.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:18 am

schlockey wrote:I said if someone lived in the sticks and didnt want internet but HAD to have it for Steam it makes no sense. I dont have to worry about that because i have an internet connect and dont live in the woods.

On the other note, yes, i would rather pay $15 a month to play WoW over $12 to play Half Life 2, and it seems like you would as well, 347 hours is alot of time.

Meh its more than 347 hours.. didnt reinstall Xfire until i had 12 or so days gametime in.. lol

But yeah, i know what your saying, just giving you a hard time..

Post by **schlockey** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:19 am

I have 43 days logged in the game myself. 34 days at level 60. I havent played in about a month either.

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:19 am

steam in a technical sense doesn't prevent me from playing hl2... i havn't played it just based on the idea of steam.

Post by **schlockey** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:21 am

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:22 am

Kaziganthe wrote:Someone needs to go on and post soapfag's pic and end this retarded thread.

id do it.. webspace is down til the 19th..

Post by **Kills On Site** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:28 am

SOAPboy wrote:
schlockey wrote:Still isnt worth $12. Mods used to be free. You have to love capitalism.
Mods are still free..

Steam, has an offline mode.. so you have to connect ONCE.. big whoop.. so you get a freebie netzero for a month and set up steam ONE TIME..

o_O

Wait a minute there Soap. I just threw the switch on my modem and started my gaming rig. I then opened HL2, it prompted me to retry to connect or run in offline mode. I clicked offline mode. It then said that the operation could not be completed in offline mode. So like I said earlier, what if my internet was down for a while and during that time I wanted to play HL2 or HL1:Source? I could not. Not to mention that some people still do have dial-up and the one thing that dial-up didn't fuck up was single player, well now you gotta tie up the line to play a single player game.

The load times are quite bad, I haven't played BF2, I did however play BF1942:DC. That isn't an excuse for the horrible, and quite frequent, load times of HL2.

Also to your "centrilized" download defence. Guess what, I own UT2004, and when I go into the mulitplayer section it has a MotD, and if there is an update it tells me that it is available. Again, in Halo PC when I connect to the multiplayer part it then checks for updates. So if I wanted to play the singleplayer of UT2004 or Halo I could easily without even needing the internet.

As for the MMORPGs that have fees like WoW and EQ that is because they provide the servers, and those servers are nice.

Is it Valve's software? Well they created it, but then again I payed good money to own a copy so I could play it on my computer, and as a consumer I do not like having to "check-in" to play a single player game. Also as a consumer, they want to make a game that makes the consumer happy, so the consumer buys the game, now dial-up people prolly won't buy the game and it pisses a good many people off because of STEAM. Companies should bow to consumer demands, consumers shouldn't be the ones to compermise.

Does STEAM help against warez? maybe somewhat, but I know of a HL2 warezed version, so it obviously doesn't stop it.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:36 am

Kills On Site wrote:
SOAPboy wrote:
schlockey wrote:Still isnt worth $12. Mods used to be free. You have to love capitalism.
Mods are still free..

Steam, has an offline mode.. so you have to connect ONCE.. big whoop.. so you get a freebie netzero for a month and set up steam ONE TIME..

o_O
Wait a minute there Soap. I just threw the switch on my modem and started my gaming rig. I then opened HL2, it prompted me to retry to connect or run in offline mode. I clicked offline mode. It then said that the operation could not be completed in offline mode. So like I said earlier, what if my internet was down for a while and during that time I wanted to play HL2 or HL1:Source? I could not. Not to mention that some people still do have dial-up and the one thing that dial-up didn't fuck up was single player, well now you gotta tie up the line to play a single player game.

The load times are quite bad, I haven't played BF2, I did however play BF1942:DC. That isn't an excuse for the horrible, and quite frequent, load times of HL2.

Also to your "centrilized" download defence. Guess what, I own UT2004, and when I go into the mulitplayer section it has a MotD, and if there is an update it tells me that it is available. Again, in Halo PC when I connect to the multiplayer part it then checks for updates. So if I wanted to play the singleplayer of UT2004 or Halo I could easily without even needing the internet.

As for the MMORPGs that have fees like WoW and EQ that is because they provide the servers, and those servers are nice.

Is it Valve's software? Well they created it, but then again I payed good money to own a copy so I could play it on my computer, and as a consumer I do not like having to "check-in" to play a single player game.

Does STEAM help against warez? maybe somewhat, but I know of a HL2 warezed version, so it obviously doesn't stop it.

Offline mode USED to work.. Tho i havent touched it because im not a caveman without net..

Centralized, as in, I DONT HAVE TO GO LOOKING AND WAIT IN LINES AND WONDER WHICH PATCH IS THE NEWEST AND I DONT HAVE TO APPLY 20 PATCHES JUST TO FULLY UPDATE.. Its easier, and all there for you with no lines, no waiting, and auto installs..

Play BF2 first or STFU about load times.. BF1942, 15 seconds tops..

To bad, dont like "checking in" dont buy any software..

Steam, prevented HL2 being fully released on the net in warez form before it came out.. they did what they wanted with it.. of course its been cracked by now.. hell CS:S closed beta was cracked almost instantly and was playable ONLINE ON LEGIT SERVERS..

Post by **Grudge** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:41 am

I've never had any problems with Steam.

And for the record, Kills on Site is a whiny little cunt.

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:42 am

steam had zero impact on hl2 being warezed.
and i know plenty of people that warezed it simply so they didn't have to put up with steam.

Post by **Kills On Site** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:45 am

Well I had a warezed copy on one computer and then liked the game so much, and was curious of what happened in HL that I bought the Collector's Edition for $40, hell I'm wearing the shirt it came with right now lol

Post by **schlockey** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:46 am

You are wearing the shirt? Not out of the house i hope.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 7:48 am

Dr_Watson wrote:steam had zero impact on hl2 being warezed.
and i know plenty of people that warezed it simply so they didn't have to put up with steam.

Right, but they didnt have it day of release..

it actually took a few days..

Post by **4g3nt_Smith** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:16 am

Kills On Site wrote:
SOAPboy wrote:
schlockey wrote:Still isnt worth $12. Mods used to be free. You have to love capitalism.
Mods are still free..

Steam, has an offline mode.. so you have to connect ONCE.. big whoop.. so you get a freebie netzero for a month and set up steam ONE TIME..

o_O
Wait a minute there Soap. I just threw the switch on my modem and started my gaming rig. I then opened HL2, it prompted me to retry to connect or run in offline mode. I clicked offline mode. It then said that the operation could not be completed in offline mode. So like I said earlier, what if my internet was down for a while and during that time I wanted to play HL2 or HL1:Source? I could not. Not to mention that some people still do have dial-up and the one thing that dial-up didn't fuck up was single player, well now you gotta tie up the line to play a single player game.

The load times are quite bad, I haven't played BF2, I did however play BF1942:DC. That isn't an excuse for the horrible, and quite frequent, load times of HL2.

Also to your "centrilized" download defence. Guess what, I own UT2004, and when I go into the mulitplayer section it has a MotD, and if there is an update it tells me that it is available. Again, in Halo PC when I connect to the multiplayer part it then checks for updates. So if I wanted to play the singleplayer of UT2004 or Halo I could easily without even needing the internet.

As for the MMORPGs that have fees like WoW and EQ that is because they provide the servers, and those servers are nice.

Is it Valve's software? Well they created it, but then again I payed good money to own a copy so I could play it on my computer, and as a consumer I do not like having to "check-in" to play a single player game. Also as a consumer, they want to make a game that makes the consumer happy, so the consumer buys the game, now dial-up people prolly won't buy the game and it pisses a good many people off because of STEAM. Companies should bow to consumer demands, consumers shouldn't be the ones to compermise.

Does STEAM help against warez? maybe somewhat, but I know of a HL2 warezed version, so it obviously doesn't stop it.

I did the exact same thing at an earlier date, and Steam/HL2 worked fine with not network connectivity.

Post by **4g3nt_Smith** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:18 am

schlockey wrote:You are wearing the shirt? Not out of the house i hope.

Yes, because wearing a shirt with some HL2 reference=bad.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:19 am

4g3nt_Smith wrote:
schlockey wrote:You are wearing the shirt? Not out of the house i hope.
Yes, because wearing a shirt with some HL2 reference=bad.

lol i have 5 White HL2 shirts.. GG freebies ^_^

Oddly, wearing one right now

Post by **4g3nt_Smith** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:20 am

SOAPboy wrote:
4g3nt_Smith wrote:
schlockey wrote:You are wearing the shirt? Not out of the house i hope.
Yes, because wearing a shirt with some HL2 reference=bad.

lol i have 5 White HL2 shirts.. GG freebies ^_^

Oddly, wearing one right now

Hell, I'd have one and wear it as well, had I actually opted for the Plat. package, and not just the cheap one that was free with my video card.

Post by **4g3nt_Smith** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:22 am

Kaziganthe wrote:Yeah well it works fine on my 3 computers so no one else in the world has the problem. :shrugfaggoticon:

Steam owns hardcore.

You just described 95% of the regulars in T&T.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:23 am

4g3nt_Smith wrote:
SOAPboy wrote:
4g3nt_Smith wrote: Yes, because wearing a shirt with some HL2 reference=bad.

lol i have 5 White HL2 shirts.. GG freebies ^_^

Oddly, wearing one right now
Hell, I'd have one and wear it as well, had I actually opted for the Plat. package, and not just the cheap one that was free with my video card.

Used to work at EB, we had em for people who preordered.. and well, our stores kinda small and we got alot of shirts.. thus lots of leftovers.. got about 5.. maybe more in a drawer.. lmfao..

i shuold ebay em for like 4 or 5 bucks..

Post by **Kills On Site** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 8:37 am

I got a free Onimusha shirt once at Gamestop because I happened to be standing there lol.

Well maybe, since Steam is auto-updating Valve thought the offline mode for HL2 to be a vulnerability and auto-updated it to stop that. Now HL2 wouldn't start, but HL:Source would. Here are some pics to prove it:

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