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ToxicBug wrote: Is it worth it?

Although $34,104 a year for residency is not baaad...
If you thinking about becoming a doctor, you'll have to be committed for the rest of your life. And more responsible then your driving behaviour.
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saturn wrote:
ToxicBug wrote: Is it worth it?

Although $34,104 a year for residency is not baaad...
If you thinking about becoming a doctor, you'll have to be committed for the rest of your life. And more responsible then your driving behaviour.
Nah, I don't want to become a doctor. Not only it takes organic chem with the concentrated strong acids in labs and stuff, but I like to conceive things and don't like helping people (I do like teaching though) so I becoming a doctor was never one of my aspirations. I'm just wondering what an extrordinary person you have to be to go through all that just to help people, you can get the same salary by having a PhD in science and whatnot and never touch a living (or deceased) human being.
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You don't become an MD for the bucks...there are easier and faster ways. Duh.

Becoming a PhD isn't easy either. It takes a lot of stamina and endurance to do research for a few years and write your thesis.

When are you going to college and do you have to decide what you're going to do?
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FragaGeddon wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:my wife makes more money then any of u here...ALL OF U R LESS FORTUNATE THEN ME!!! how does it feel?
Well your wife wasn't worth the $50 I paid her.
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inolen wrote:
FragaGeddon wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:my wife makes more money then any of u here...ALL OF U R LESS FORTUNATE THEN ME!!! how does it feel?
Well your wife wasn't worth the $50 I paid her.
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yeah, it was really bad
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saturn wrote:You don't become an MD for the bucks...there are easier and faster ways. Duh.

Becoming a PhD isn't easy either. It takes a lot of stamina and endurance to do research for a few years and write your thesis.

When are you going to college and do you have to decide what you're going to do?
You can say that I'm in "college" right now, it works differently in Canada:

-Elementary school (grades 1-6)
-Secondary school (grades 7-11)
-College (2 years pre-university or 3 years technical, no university)
-University

In college here there are different programs, pure science, commerce, social science, liberal arts, etc. I'm in pure science, so when I get to university I can do pretty much whatever I want, science or engineering, or commerce/business administration/finance, etc. Its gonna be my second year this fall, so I gotta choose what I want to do before I apply to university, that means before this winter preferably, so I can take optional science courses that would convey my choice of field of study in university.
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Dr.FrasierCrane wrote:Our average repair recently are WinXP PC's with 5 or 6 user accounts on it, each of which are absolutely infested with spyware, £20 for a cleanup £30 for a format if needed. Easy tax free earner :icon32: .
From what ive seen in the 4 and a half years ive been working here, people need to earn a fucking license to own a computer, dickheads everywhere :icon33: .

Damn, we charge 20 for a "bench fee"...clean 'er up, put all the anti-tools on, fix connections, reinstall whatever they need ect...

THen we charge 70 bucks for a format, and a extra 15 if they need any data saved. :lol: good times...

btw, I've been doing phone support for one of our towns ISPs, it's getting old at times but I don't know of another job that is as flexible with hours and still lets me sit on my ass all day browsing around...

Also going to the local junior college trying to get a CCNA degree, but b/c of math/english/Social Studies/Science ect...I'm holding back on the Cisco courses to be able to work full time and go to school.
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saturn wrote:
werldhed wrote:I'm a researcher in the immunology and cancer departments for the not-for-profit drug discovery branch of a prominent cancer clinic and also for its peripheral pharmaceutical company. Specifically, I design and run tests for new treatments of asthma, GVHD, and a few different cancers.
Basically I do the expiriments and someone else puts their name on the paper.

At the end of the summer I'm dumping the job and returning to school to take a stab at getting my PhD in immunology and cancer biology so I can publish something when and how I want to publish it.
Interesting, I did research for the Hematology department here in Rotterdam. It related much to Graft versus Host disease.
Cool... The GVHD I've worked on was with bone marrow, so it involved graft rejection in the blood (it's for leukemia treatments). It's an area I'm considering when I return to school, but the scientist I might work with there does tissue rejection instead of bone marrow.
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ToxicBug wrote:
saturn wrote:
ToxicBug wrote: Is it worth it?

Although $34,104 a year for residency is not baaad...
If you thinking about becoming a doctor, you'll have to be committed for the rest of your life. And more responsible then your driving behaviour.
Nah, I don't want to become a doctor. Not only it takes organic chem with the concentrated strong acids in labs and stuff, but I like to conceive things and don't like helping people (I do like teaching though) so I becoming a doctor was never one of my aspirations. I'm just wondering what an extrordinary person you have to be to go through all that just to help people, you can get the same salary by having a PhD in science and whatnot and never touch a living (or deceased) human being.
Definitely not. Or, at least not in comparable fields. A typical physician will earn far more than a typical PhD, especially in biology. Engineering or physics might be different, but I really don't know about those. In order to achieve a salary on par with medical doctors, a PhD would have to be in the medical field (i.e. get a medical degree) or be in buisiness (have an MBA). Or they'd have to be a remarkable scientist (hold many patents, win awards, etc.) If you compare just salary and job security, getting an MD is a better bet for the work involved. But like Saturn said, becoming a doctor for the money is not the right thing to do.
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whats it like working? me forgets...it must suck eh?
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I´m an architect. Currently working in southern Spain and atm mostly making a huge model for a project our office is about to build.
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chopov wrote:I´m an architect. Currently working in southern Spain and atm mostly doing model making.
keep ur personal problems to urself...thx...
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Freakaloin wrote:keep ur personal problems to urself...thx...
fuck u
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werldhed wrote:
saturn wrote:
werldhed wrote:I'm a researcher in the immunology and cancer departments for the not-for-profit drug discovery branch of a prominent cancer clinic and also for its peripheral pharmaceutical company. Specifically, I design and run tests for new treatments of asthma, GVHD, and a few different cancers.
Basically I do the expiriments and someone else puts their name on the paper.

At the end of the summer I'm dumping the job and returning to school to take a stab at getting my PhD in immunology and cancer biology so I can publish something when and how I want to publish it.
Interesting, I did research for the Hematology department here in Rotterdam. It related much to Graft versus Host disease.
Cool... The GVHD I've worked on was with bone marrow, so it involved graft rejection in the blood (it's for leukemia treatments). It's an area I'm considering when I return to school, but the scientist I might work with there does tissue rejection instead of bone marrow.
My project was named: "The effects of UVB irradiation on the phenotype and function of murine myeloid dendritic cells".

I derived bone marrow from freshly killed C57Bl/6 mice and cultivated them with GM-CSF to create dendritic cells. Then I irradiated them with variable doses of UVB light (which is known to have a immunosupressive effect). I did a lot of other stuff, but to make it short I tried to alter the T-cell stimulatory effects of dendritic cells so we might create tolerant Th1 and Th2 cells that could be used to fight Graft-versus-Host disease in Leukemia transplant-patients.

If I read my stuff i did 4 years ago, I understand half the stuff was doing back then, haha.
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chopov wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:keep ur personal problems to urself...thx...
I'm gay
i know...fuck you...
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chopov wrote:I´m an architect. Currently working in southern Spain and atm mostly making a huge model for a project our office is about to build.
envious
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saturn wrote: My project was named: "The effects of UVB irradiation on the phenotype and function of murine myeloid dendritic cells".

I derived bone marrow from freshly killed C57Bl/6 mice and cultivated them with GM-CSF to create dendritic cells. Then I irradiated them with variable doses of UVB light (which is known to have a immunosupressive effect). I did a lot of other stuff, but to make it short I tried to alter the T-cell stimulatory effects of dendritic cells so we might create tolerant Th1 and Th2 cells that could be used to fight Graft-versus-Host disease in Leukemia transplant-patients.

If I read my stuff i did 4 years ago, I understand half the stuff was doing back then, haha.
That makes sense. Was the goal to alter the MDCs so they did not activate the donor T cells when exposed to the recipient cells? Would that also reduce the MDC ability to activate T cells when they come in contact with foreign pathogens (e.g. viruses or bacteria). Or where you trying to specifically reduce T cell activation in terms of the Host's antigens and not foreign antigens?
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chopov wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:keep ur personal problems to urself...thx...
I'm gay
How original, post editing. Something completely new... :dork:
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chopov wrote:
chopov wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:keep ur personal problems to urself...thx...
I'm gay
How original, post editing. Something completely new... :dork:
Actually no.

But I won't give away the secret. :lol:
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+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
chopov wrote:I´m an architect. Currently working in southern Spain and atm mostly making a huge model for a project our office is about to build.
envious
Well, it had 40º C today. If you are here on holiday this may be nice but if you have to handle and glue tiny pieces of wood metal and plastic all day it´s quite annoying. Nevertheless I catched a baad sunburn last weekend on the beach... :icon32:
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