What the hell?

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:47 am

btw here's a little experiment we can all do on this msgboard.

One of the things that is invariably lost due to circumcision are the erotogenic stretch receptors on the ridged band of the foreskin.

Males with intact penises can elicit sexual feelings by pulling down their foreskin, and stretching it. Some can even induce orgasm this way simply by stretching the foreskin down.

This is due to the receptors' responsiveness to physical deformation.

Males who are circumcised do not experience this.

Would be nice if intact males who are posting in this thread could confirm this.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:47 am

Eraser wrote:
[xeno]Julios wrote:There are some valid medical indications for male circumcision. The most common one is phimosis.

However, from what I recall, phimosis is a term used for a broad range of different phenomena regarding the foreskin's retractivity. Basically there may be many reasons that a foreskin experiences difficulty retracting, and to various degrees; yet phimosis is the term usually used for all of them.
But if that is an argument in favor of circumsision, then why should everyone undergo it if there are so many negative effects of it as well. Shouldn't circumsision be used as a medical treatment for people who suffer from this problem instead of on every baby who have no free will yet? That goes for pretty much every medical reason IMO.

have you read the rest of my posts in this thread? - I'm very much against any form of genital mutilation, be it male of female

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:49 am

This is reflected in the training that doctors undergo for circumcision, as well as a dearth of preputial education in medical textbooks, as well as a lack of histological and sexological research on the prepuce.

This is from my post in the metafilter thread.

It would be interesting to confirm my claim by polling people in this thread who have studied medicine:

What did you learn about the male foreskin - were its sexual functions elucidated in your texts/lectures?

Post by **S@M** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:35 am

[xeno]Julios wrote: the natural glossy shine.

thats quite teh funniest thing I've heard today.

Post by **MKJ** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:37 am

S@M wrote:
[xeno]Julios wrote: the natural glossy shine.
thats quite teh funniest thing I've heard today.

thats cause you're like 12

Post by **Eraser** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:52 am

[xeno]Julios wrote: have you read the rest of my posts in this thread? - I'm very much against any form of genital mutilation, be it male of female

Oh yes I'm aware of that. I'm not directing it against your opinion rather to question the reasoning of those in favor of circumsision

Post by **Pext** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:50 am

tell her to NOT do it. circumsision is one of the most stupid things, humanity invented.

just imagine you're a sane, grown up man, not circumcised. would you seriously allow people to cut pieces of your penis?!?!?!?

and the 'hygiene' argument is just plain retarded.

Post by **Tormentius** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:31 pm

[xeno]Julios wrote:
i'm curious - are you yourself circumcised? If so, then that is a remarkable decision you and your wife made.

The prime predictor of whether a baby male will be circumcised is the circumcision status of the father.

I'm not, but we both wanted to find out all the facts before deciding one way or another since it is such a common procedure. Once I found out about the ridge of nerves in the foreskin not proceeding with it was a foregone conclusion. I don't know about the rest of you but I'd have been pissed if my folks made that kind of decision for me.

Post by **dzjepp** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:57 pm

Ok Julz, so I have my cock in my hand right now, what is it that you wanted us to test?

Post by **tnf** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:58 pm

I had no idea this would elicit such a serious response. I wanted some humor about the 'restoration systems.' Instead, I got a lot of good information. That will have to do.

Post by **dzjepp** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 3:59 pm

Ok pull my foreskin down, got ya. I'll do it later though, as some poeple just walked into the room.

Post by **zeeko** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:11 pm

i'm circumcised and i'm alright with it, i can bury it in the sand at the beach and rub it all over it and i don't have much to worry about. doesn't more pleasure probably mean less longevity?

Post by **Geebs** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:14 pm

[xeno]Julios wrote:There are some valid medical indications for male circumcision. The most common one is phimosis.

I was talking about male circumision of newborns.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:43 pm

yea there's absolutely no valid reason for routine neonatal circumcision.

Post by **mik0rs** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:44 pm

Exactly! Where the fuck would I store my spare change?

Post by **zeeko** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:19 pm

could you stick a bag of weed in there?

Post by **Pext** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:29 pm

zeeko wrote:doesn't more pleasure probably mean less longevity?

:icon26: does this thought really satisfy you?

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:12 am

btw here is a vid of a circumcision:

http://ftp.intact.ca/images/new025.mpeg

more vids here (though i haven't checked them out):

http://www.intact.ca/video.html

Post by **shiznit** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:19 am

Basically circumcision is a fairly barbaric practice that has almost no health benefits; it also dulls the sensation during sex. It can be non-surgically reversed due to the elasticity of the foreskin, however that takes time.

Post by **tnf** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:20 am

Yea, the plasticity makes sense...I just didn't realize people had the desire to reverse it...

Post by **l0g1c** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:47 am

[xeno]Julios wrote:btw here is a vid of a circumcision:

http://ftp.intact.ca/images/new025.mpeg

more vids here (though i haven't checked them out):

http://www.intact.ca/video.html

:icon28:

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:39 am

yea absolutely lovely innit?

that's one of the first experiences that baby had upon entering the outside world.

this is truly a way in which we are a mad, fucked up, race.

Post by **Geebs** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:42 am

Hell, (somewhere) in Africa they circumcise their teenagers with a rusty spear..... and you're lucky if you get to use the spear first in the batch

Apparently the death rate from sepsis and unremitting penile bleading is pretty significant.

Post by **eepberries** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:42 am

Tell her not to mutilate her fucking child.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:57 am

Geebs wrote:Hell, (somewhere) in Africa they circumcise their teenagers with a rusty spear..... and you're lucky if you get to use the spear first in the batch

Apparently the death rate from sepsis and unremitting penile bleading is pretty significant.

Scores of adolescent males die each year in South Africa during their initiation rites (circumcision)

Death toll is at 20 so far for this season alone:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3069491.stm

2002 left 24 dead:

http://www.cirp.org/news/thestar07-16-02/

HIV infections are also on the rise due to lack of sterile conditions:

http://allafrica.com/stories/200507070803.html