Doom 3 CTF | methctf1 - Central Hub (final version)

Post by **Method** » Tue Jul 05, 2005 3:48 am

Final version of Central Hub (methctf1) has been released.

Screenshots:

Download the map here.

-Method

Post by **Eraser** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 1:28 pm

Wow. What strikes me first is how much this could be a Quake III map. The architecture, use of textures and way of lighting looks really Q3-ish for some reason.

Post by **Method** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:26 pm

Not sure about Quake 3, but I was going for Quake 2 gameplay wrapped in Doom 3 engine.

-Method

Post by **seremtan** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:32 pm

Eraser wrote:Wow. What strikes me first is how much this could be a Quake III map. The architecture, use of textures and way of lighting looks really Q3-ish for some reason.

it's the brown/blue combo that gives it a Q3A vibe

Post by **Method** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:57 pm

I think it'll be hard to have similar atmosphere with Quake 3 vanilla textures. Also note that Q3 doesn't have normal and specular maps, so the textures won't look as real. Lighting in Q3 is also not as dynamic as in D3.

-Method

Post by **rep** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 12:23 am

It reminds me of a mixture between Q3, DOOM 64, and of course DOOM 3. Good job.

Post by **Method** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 4:25 am

Thanks for the positive comments guys.

-Method

Post by **seremtan** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:29 am

Method wrote:I think it'll be hard to have similar atmosphere with Quake 3 vanilla textures. Also note that Q3 doesn't have normal and specular maps, so the textures won't look as real. Lighting in Q3 is also not as dynamic as in D3.

-Method

well, q3a does have spec, and it looks ok if done properly (I don't mean env mapping), and bumpmapping is possible with q3map2 but it isn't as effective as d3 and needs the right kind of lighting to bring it out.

Post by **^misantropia^** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:34 pm

An interesting factoid: the Trinity engine (i.e. Q3A) initially was to support bump mapping. But iD dropped it somewhere along the way, assumedly because most hardware in those days wasn't fast enough to do it properly.

Post by **o'dium** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:15 pm

I remember looking at the early quake 3 shots and being so excited with the amazing level of detail. The original player models were all id team mebers, and they looked stunning... Now of course, its all block heads and low res textures with zero detail, but the point is back then, Quake 3 ran SHIT on anything. Everybody and their dog upgraded a few times to get Q3 running smooth (40 FPS, FUCK ME THIS IS SMOOTH!!!). So taking out bump mapping was a good idea.

Its still a shame that they had to drop the detail level so much back then from what the original shots had. Some of the levels and particle effects were stunning. But of course, we were all running picmip 16 back then anyways, so the missing detail didn't matter.

Post by **o'dium** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 2:17 pm

I think people are making the comparisons Meth because your level is bright, vivid, detailed, and colourful. Most Doom 3 maps however, are one colour, with dark lights and over-use of static meshes.

Post by **Eraser** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:17 pm

Method wrote:I think it'll be hard to have similar atmosphere with Quake 3 vanilla textures. Also note that Q3 doesn't have normal and specular maps, so the textures won't look as real. Lighting in Q3 is also not as dynamic as in D3.

-Method

True. But a lot of Q3 maps go for this sci-fi tech/industrial theme with custom textures.

Post by **Method** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:25 pm

The level is not really bright, I just made the screenshots a bit brighter. The lighting in map is medium, not dark and not bright.

I'm already testing new gameplay ideas for my future Quake 4 CTF map. Are you guys planning on buying Quake 4?

-Method

Post by **o'dium** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:26 pm

Hell yes, it should be a lot better MP wise than Doom 3. Im not sure if it will take over Quake 3 again, because the game still looks quite a bit iffy.

Post by **obsidian** » Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:04 pm

I'm definitely buying Q4 as well as Quake Wars: Enemy Territory.

Hopefully my 6800GT will still make the cut.

Any chance for a Q4 port of this map?

Post by **Method** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 1:01 am

Yea, I might port this map to Quake 4, but completely retexture it. Like I mentioned before, I had some problems texturing this map, due to the lack of non-shiny textures. Quake 4's atmosphere looks more grittier and darker than Doom 3, which is a good thing.

I have GeForce FX 5700 Ultra 128MB and I'm hoping it'll run Quake 4.

-Method

Post by **Scourge** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:42 am

I've bought every other quake game, I'm not about to break tradition with 4. I'll definately have to upgrade my vidcard for it though.

I don't play ctf, but I'll give this one a runaround. Looks great. :icon14:

Post by **Method** » Sat Jul 09, 2005 5:42 am

Thanks, you can try the map on the following servers:

- Official PlanetDOOM CTF Server (runs on weekends)
- MHGaming.com CTF Server
- eXg Clan Server

-Method