linux

Post by **bork[e]** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:26 am

so after a few weeks of looking around i'm trying to put Gentoo on my pc. From the docs i've been reading there seems to be an install option that does most of the work for you. (Stage3?)

So I boot from the CD, boot into Gentoo and get console/teminal whatever... and I'm lost. I went to their site from that console and read some manuals on how to do god knows what...

What I'm wondering is this...is there a cd image somewhere that installs this damn thing without me having to read a book on how to install linux on my pc, or is that half the fun. :icon30:

Post by **mjrpes** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:28 am

it's all the fun.

Post by **bork[e]** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:30 am

that's what I was thinking during my black screen experience.

at least I didn't screw my windows install.

Post by **duffman91** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:46 am

Gentoo is a tad bit difficult as a starter distribution. I would recommend Debian or FreeBSD. The latter has arguably the best *nix documentation out there.

If you want to turn your brain off completelly during an install, I would recommend Fedora or Mandrake.

Post by **bork[e]** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 7:28 am

I'm going with ubuntu for now, Postal suggested that and said it was nothing compared to my first choice...

I'll give those a try if this fails though, thanks.

Post by **bork[e]** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:43 am

It's going to take some getting used to, but I like playing around with it so far.

Detected every piece of hardware I had, no problems at all.

To bad I downloaded some updates for firefox 3 times and, once I couldn't find the damn files, another time I couldn't figure out how to install it, and the third time the file was currupt... :lol:

but all in all it looks like it's going to fun to screw around with.

Post by **4days** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:57 am

don't bother with gentoo unless you're able to read/interpret clearly written instructions.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:29 am

bork[e] wrote:I'm going with ubuntu for now, Postal suggested that and said it was nothing compared to my first choice...

I'll give those a try if this fails though, thanks.

he suggested it because i told his n00b *ss to use it. if you can't get thru ubuntu or kubuntu for that matter, stick a fork in your eye and headbutt a famous landmark.

Post by **Postal** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:15 pm

i suggested it because ubuntu pwns.

Post by **MKJ** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:16 pm

linux :\

Post by **^misantropia^** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:10 pm

linux :]

Post by **Timbo** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:08 pm

duffman91 wrote:Gentoo is a tad bit difficult as a starter distribution. I would recommend Debian or FreeBSD.

Seriously, what the fuck?

Post by **Timbo** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:09 pm

Oh yeah,... Ubuntu \o/

(I've been a long time debian user)

Post by **plained** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:21 pm

im getting the tingle

*dims lights

Post by **SOAPboy** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:22 pm

Fedora FTW!

Post by **bork[e]** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:56 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
bork[e] wrote:I'm going with ubuntu for now, Postal suggested that and said it was nothing compared to my first choice...

I'll give those a try if this fails though, thanks.
he suggested it because i told his n00b *ss to use it. if you can't get thru ubuntu or kubuntu for that matter, stick a fork in your eye and headbutt a famous landmark.

So you are telling me I'm wrong for not wanting to read up and learn many commands to get gentoo working, that I would rather pop something in and let 'er go to check it out?...I doubt I could tell the difference between to the two anyway dude.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:48 pm

no no, i would recommend ubuntu anyway. you should've tried the live distros first for a flavor you'd be comfortable with.

Post by **duffman91** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 6:58 pm

Timbo wrote:
duffman91 wrote:Gentoo is a tad bit difficult as a starter distribution. I would recommend Debian or FreeBSD.
Seriously, what the fuck?

Debian is extremelly easy to get running and so is FreeBSD. The extensive documentation is an excellent place to start. They are also my distributions of choice.

Exactly what made you "what the fuck" ?

Post by **Timbo** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 9:56 pm

The fact they're completely unsuitable for someone wanting to get to grips with *nix. On the other hand, reading the OP again, if bork[e] is prepared to do the farting about required to get gentoo going, he probably doesn't care.

Linux badly needs to consolidate. There are far too many distros all doing basically the same thing in slightly different ways. IMO Ubuntu is currently doing things "best".

Post by **bork[e]** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:14 pm

So, I'm trying to figure out how to install something and... Here is my source.

By default, Ubuntu does not come with the tools required. You need to install the package build-essential to work with most of these packages. And since you may want to get code some projects with no released version, you should install the packages cvs and subversion as well if you think you'll need them. You should then build a common directory for yourself where you'll be building these packages. I recommend creating /usr/local/src, but really you can put it anywhere you want. Make sure this directory is writable by your primary user account, by running sudo chown username /usr/local/src and just to be safe sudo chmod u+rwx /usr/local/src. After you've done this, you're set up to start getting the programs you need.

I'm really confused, I've tried to install some nvidia driver firefox updates ect and I'm just lost as can be.

btw, I've also been looking around for some documents on the extreme basics of this OS. Like, what is Linux's Program Files folder called, or the equivalent? When I'm browsing through folders, how can I make it stay in the one window and not open another each time I click a folder...things that are a few clicks away in windows I spent a couple hours last night looking around...

anything like this you guys know of? tia for the help.

Post by **duffman91** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:31 pm

bork[e] wrote:So, I'm trying to figure out how to install something and... Here is my source.

I'm really confused, I've tried to install some nvidia driver firefox updates ect and I'm just lost as can be.

btw, I've also been looking around for some documents on the extreme basics of this OS. Like, what is Linux's Program Files folder called, or the equivalent? When I'm browsing through folders, how can I make it stay in the one window and not open another each time I click a folder...things that are a few clicks away in windows I spent a couple hours last night looking around...

anything like this you guys know of? tia for the help.

Drivers have to be installed as "root" (a super user/administrator account). The NVIDIA website should have every step of the install delimitered for you.

As for programs. I believe they go in /usr/local/bin.

Window behavior is changed in whatever desktop environment's settings. In KDE there is a settings tab in the main menu. If you want more help on a chat medium, look me up. Info should be in profile. I'm bored to shit at work.

Post by **bork[e]** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:39 pm

nvidia wrote:Type "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-7664-pkg1.run" to install the driver, then edit your X config file as appropriate.

What is that? Reading throught their read me right now but haven't found an answer yet..

edit: The x config file bit.

Post by **duffman91** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:50 pm

the XFree86 or Xorg config file is in

/etc/X11/XF86Config
or
/etc/X11/Xorg.conf

it should look like :

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"
RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
ModulePath "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "dbe"
Load "record"
Load "xtrap"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
#DisplaySize 310 230 # mm
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "GWY"
ModelName "VX720"
### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC:
# HorizSync 30.0 - 96.0
# VertRefresh 50.0 - 130.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: <i>: integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "accel" # [<bool>]
#Option "crt_display" # [<bool>]
#Option "composite_sync" # [<bool>]
#Option "hw_cursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "linear" # [<bool>]
#Option "mmio_cache" # [<bool>]
#Option "test_mmio_cache" # [<bool>]
#Option "panel_display" # [<bool>]
#Option "probe_clocks" # [<bool>]
#Option "reference_clock" # <freq>
#Option "shadow_fb" # [<bool>]
#Option "sw_cursor" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "ati" *******
VendorName "ATI" *******
BoardName "3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X" *****
ChipSet "ati" *****
ChipId 0x4742 ******
ChipRev 0x5c
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

<strike>The bolded parts are what they want you to change to match that of the new drivers.</strike>

The parts with **** on them, are what I mean

Post by **bork[e]** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:55 pm

um hey, are they going to tell me what to put there?

Post by **duffman91** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:55 pm

They should have.

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