bush admits using propaganda...gets applause...wtf?

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Don't worry comrade goof, things are going according to plan...
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er..why is ryoki's post above goofs?
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wtf? :)
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wtf????
a defining attribute of a government is that it has a monopoly on the legitimate exercise of violence...
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no dude...it right there^^^
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riddla wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:wtf????
stop playing dumb, you just deleted your own post
Without deleting the entire thread? Genius.
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Re: bush admits using propaganda...gets applause...wtf?

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You of all people should not be surprised. Bush doesn't give speeches to real people. His team pre-selects "favorable audience members" that would applaude thunderously if Bush announced that he loves the cock....

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Re: bush admits using propaganda...gets applause...wtf?

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Ok, so here's the definition of propaganda.

1 capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect

So tell me where/when do Democrats or Republicans not use "propaganda" to further their cause. Liberals love to scare the shit out of seniors to push their agenda of "the government will take care of you". As an example.

The idea is that each party uses "propaganda" to further their cause. FFS man, think.
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RiffRaff wrote:
Ok, so here's the definition of propaganda.

1 capitalized : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause; also : a public action having such an effect

So tell me where/when do Democrats or Republicans not use "propaganda" to further their cause. Liberals love to scare the shit out of seniors to push their agenda of "the government will take care of you". As an example.

The idea is that each party uses "propaganda" to further their cause. FFS man, think.
lol, ffs. :confused:
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Post by tnf »

Yea, bush is an idiot, but even me, who despises him more than any human being in recent memory, can see that this sound byte really doesn't amount to jack shit. He's joking about it...(although he probably knows there is a fair amount of truth in his statement).
And, as much as it pains me, I agree with RiffRaff - both parties are guilty of shoving propaganda down our throats. Doesn't make it right, of course...
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who broke the thread :(
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of course everyone uses propaganda...but using it to decieve, control and kill is over the top...unless u think thats cool..nm...
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...goof that's the whole goddamn point of propaganda. Otherwise it wouldn't be called propaganda, it'd be called 'educative persuasion technique' or something.
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well propaganda was justified during ww2 imo...
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tnf wrote:And, as much as it pains me, I agree with RiffRaff - both parties are guilty of shoving propaganda down our throats. Doesn't make it right, of course...
LOL. Sorry to put you in that situation tnf :p
Pext wrote:lol, ffs. :confused:

Definitions confuse you? Or the practical application of a definition confuses you? :icon27:
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Freakaloin wrote:well propaganda was justified during ww2 imo...
Remember that the victors write the history books :)
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RiffRaff wrote:
Pext wrote:lol, ffs. :confused:

Definitions confuse you? Or the practical application of a definition confuses you? :icon27:
you confuse me.

so 'applying' your definition: it was ok for the nazis to use propaganda because the democrats use it as well?
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Counter propeganda is probably the one effective weapon against propaganda from the adversary. Does that 'justify' using it? Depends on who you ask :)
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Pext wrote:
RiffRaff wrote:
Pext wrote:lol, ffs. :confused:

Definitions confuse you? Or the practical application of a definition confuses you? :icon27:
you confuse me.

so 'applying' your definition: it was ok for the nazis to use propaganda because the democrats use it as well?
Uh, no. Why is there always someone who goes to extremes and invokes Nazism into a discussion. :icon27: GJ Pext.

My point was both Dems and Repubs use propaganda and I gave a theme of what I thought was Democratic propaganda. You said "lol. ffs :confused: "

What are you confused about? Do you not see propaganda is used by many organizations to further their cause. Thus, the definition.

No where in my reply did I say it was ok to use propaganda, I pointed out that it's common. You're tiring me with your lack of clear thinking. :icon21:
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