3DMark05

Post by **Grudge** » Thu May 26, 2005 8:10 pm

soapey is right on this one, actually

Post by **inphlict** » Thu May 26, 2005 8:12 pm

shaft just got schooled. :icon19:

Post by **shaft** » Thu May 26, 2005 8:15 pm

im not saying i dont belive it...my components are just fine, im saying the test is kinda of dumb if people with the same system spec dont get roughly the same score. this isnt about hardware..its about how stripped down and tweaked out you can run windows. Getting a 2k difference in score from one run to the next is dumb.

Post by **shaft** » Thu May 26, 2005 8:18 pm

inphlict wrote:shaft just got schooled. :icon19:

schooled in what? we are having a discussion here, not an argument idiot.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Thu May 26, 2005 8:19 pm

shaft wrote:im not saying i dont belive it...my components are just fine, im saying the test is kinda of dumb if people with the same system spec dont get roughly the same score. this isnt about hardware..its about how stripped down and tweaked out you can run windows. Getting a 2k difference in score from one run to the next is dumb.

2.8c P4
6800GT
1gig pc3200 muskin dual channel

Windows Fresh install, fully updated..

2001 score 22k
2003 score 13k
2005 score 5k

nothing is stripped from my system...

Post by **inphlict** » Thu May 26, 2005 8:21 pm

shaft wrote:
inphlict wrote:shaft just got schooled. :icon19:
schooled in what? we are having a discussion here, not an argument idiot.

No need to be so bitter. Schooled as in he taught you a lesson about why your computer gets shitty scores.

Post by **Tormentius** » Thu May 26, 2005 8:24 pm

shaft wrote:im not saying i dont belive it...my components are just fine, im saying the test is kinda of dumb if people with the same system spec dont get roughly the same score. this isnt about hardware..its about how stripped down and tweaked out you can run windows. Getting a 2k difference in score from one run to the next is dumb.

It stands to reason that stripping unneeded services out is going to increase the score as there are more resources for the app to use. Hardware also plays a big role, as Soap said.

Post by **shaft** » Thu May 26, 2005 8:46 pm

Tormentius wrote:
shaft wrote:im not saying i dont belive it...my components are just fine, im saying the test is kinda of dumb if people with the same system spec dont get roughly the same score. this isnt about hardware..its about how stripped down and tweaked out you can run windows. Getting a 2k difference in score from one run to the next is dumb.
It stands to reason that stripping unneeded services out is going to increase the score as there are more resources for the app to use. Hardware also plays a big role, as Soap said.

yes yes of course. I’m not denying that, or saying I wasn’t aware of it. I was just trying to point how silly it is that it makes that big of a difference in the test. He says my scores are shit for an xp3200 w/x800XTPE, yet he is comparing them to a tweaked, or a fresh installed machine. My score was practically the same as odium’s first score, as it should be. I would hardly say my machine is bloated..I went through the services when I installed windows and shutoff unnecessary ones. I’m running every day background processes... AV, msn, IRC...etc. I was only questioning why he thinks they are shit.

I had my 05 scores in a txt file from when I ran it a couple months ago when I bought my new video card... it was 5650.

Post by **dzjepp** » Thu May 26, 2005 8:50 pm

I HAVE 647337 PENIS BOOSTING THREE DEE MARKS! OMFG! WANNA SUCK ME OFF?

Post by **Tormentius** » Thu May 26, 2005 8:51 pm

shaft wrote:

I was only questioning why he thinks they are shit.

Because bigger scores = bigger e-penis or so most nerds seem to think :icon22:

If you've tweaked your system and are happy with it then don't worry about a synthetic benchmark. I haven't even bothered running benchmarks on my latest system because, quite frankly, I don't care. It does what I require it to do well.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Thu May 26, 2005 8:55 pm

Tormentius wrote:
shaft wrote:

I was only questioning why he thinks they are shit.

Because bigger scores = bigger e-penis or so most nerds seem to think :icon22:

If you've tweaked your system and are happy with it then don't worry about a synthetic benchmark. I haven't even bothered running benchmarks on my latest system because, quite frankly, I don't care. It does what I require it to do well.

For his system, it should be a bit higher is all..

and yes, some people DO get all hard on there scores.. laf.. its funneh

Post by **shaft** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:00 pm

SOAPboy wrote:
shaft wrote:
SOAPboy wrote: Blame your uber pc building skills..
How should the way I put together my pc affect my score? A pc only goes together one way. :icon27:
Setup, Drivers, Parts Brands and Quality, it al plays a part..

Well since my components are fine, I guess that would mean you were talking about how I configured software and not my "uber pc building skills"
Hence my sarcasm and :lol:

Post by **SOAPboy** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:01 pm

shaft wrote:
SOAPboy wrote:
shaft wrote: How should the way I put together my pc affect my score? A pc only goes together one way. :icon27:
Setup, Drivers, Parts Brands and Quality, it al plays a part..
Well since my components are fine, I guess that would mean you were talking about how I configured software and not my "uber pc building skills"
Hence my sarcasm and :lol:

Part of the build is software setup.. only noobs thing otherwise..

Post by **shaft** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:03 pm

SOAPboy wrote:
shaft wrote:
SOAPboy wrote: Setup, Drivers, Parts Brands and Quality, it al plays a part..
Well since my components are fine, I guess that would mean you were talking about how I configured software and not my "uber pc building skills"
Hence my sarcasm and :lol:
Part of the build is software setup.. only noobs thing otherwise..

There is a building stage and a installing and configuring stage. I dont "thing" otherwise.

Post by **SOAPboy** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:05 pm

shaft wrote:
SOAPboy wrote:
shaft wrote: Well since my components are fine, I guess that would mean you were talking about how I configured software and not my "uber pc building skills"
Hence my sarcasm and :lol:
Part of the build is software setup.. only noobs thing otherwise..

There is a building stage and a installing and configuring stage. I dont "thing" otherwise.

Typos FTW!

But yeah, Software is part of the "build".. now installing bobs mega game pack, isnt part of a build obviously, because the machine will run without it..

but without OS, Drivers, ect the machine is a paper weight.. so guess what part comes into play as part of the build? OS and Driver setup.. DOH!

Post by **Kills On Site** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:05 pm

I have almost the same setup as Turb, cept my OCed Athlon 2600 Mobile runs 2.4, BFG Tech 6800 GT, Corsair XMS 2-5-5-6 1024MB, Abit AN7. Minor differences, otherwise the same.

In 3D Marks 05 I get 4684 and 11110 in 3Dm Marks 05.

Hopefully this summer I will upgrade to an Athlon 64 with a Venice core, alas I would have to sell my 6800 GT and buy a PCI-X version of it. Fortunatly I could upgrade to dual core in a year or so from that.

Post by **shaft** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:10 pm

SOAPboy wrote:
Typos FTW!

But yeah, Software is part of the "build".. now installing bobs mega game pack, isnt part of a build obviously, because the machine will run without it..

but without OS, Drivers, ect the machine is a paper weight.. so guess what part comes into play as part of the build? OS and Driver setup.. DOH!

sure thing :lol:

Post by **SOAPboy** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:12 pm

shaft wrote:
SOAPboy wrote:
Typos FTW!

But yeah, Software is part of the "build".. now installing bobs mega game pack, isnt part of a build obviously, because the machine will run without it..

but without OS, Drivers, ect the machine is a paper weight.. so guess what part comes into play as part of the build? OS and Driver setup.. DOH!
sure thing :lol:

Sucks when the goth is right dont it?

Post by **shaft** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:15 pm

SOAPboy wrote:
Sucks when the goth is right dont it?

Right? :lol:

Post by **PhoeniX** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:26 pm

Shaft I don't know if you're doing that to annoy him, but specially with graphics drivers you can inproove your FPS a lot by changing drivers, or indeed cause your system to be slower than ever.

Post by **o'dium** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:26 pm

I did clean up a bit TBH. I stopped unused apps (My first run had PSP running in the background) and stripped a few things (MSN, ie was open before etc).

So yeah, thats what the huge loss was, but still, a 3k loss is quite large (From turbs to mine, but thats a BFG card for ya)

Post by **Don Carlos** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:31 pm

o'dium wrote:Aye come on, here it is:

http://www.overclockersclub.com/downloa ... load&id=14

Lets grab it and see

3 mins...lets see if i can make it over 10k

Post by **SOAPboy** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:32 pm

PhoeniX wrote:Shaft I don't know if you're doing that to annoy him, but specially with graphics drivers you can inproove your FPS a lot by changing drivers, or indeed cause your system to be slower than ever.

He just cant stand the fact im right..

Post by **shaft** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:34 pm

PhoeniX wrote:Shaft I don't know if you're doing that to annoy him, but specially with graphics drivers you can inproove your FPS a lot by changing drivers, or indeed cause your system to be slower than ever.

Yeah, I have old video drivers, I didnt know new catalyst drivers came out this month. Ill update later and give it another run.

Post by **shaft** » Thu May 26, 2005 9:41 pm

SOAPboy wrote:
He just cant stand the fact im right..

What exactly did I disagree with you on? Besides your definition of building pc vs configuring one? Give it a rest nerd. Its not funny anymore. You started right off with the uber building flame for no reason, ive laughed it off till now, but seriously you can fuck off now, ok? Go play some more WoW. Its thursday and you only have 21hrs in.