another jogging concern

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:19 pm

as i mentioned in this other thread:

http://www.quake3world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5121

I started jogging recently.

Been on about 5 jogs since, and have developed a pain in my left shin. It feels like a deep bone pain, and only hurts right after the jog. Then it pretty much disappears. If i run my finger down the bone and press, it doesn't really hurt. Feels like it's deep within the bone.

First time this happened, I took a day off. But today when i went jogging again, it returned.

I'm jogging on concrete (race is on concrete), and I'm a beginner, so I understand this is not unusual.

The max I've jogged for so far is 15 minutes (bit over 3k) - so it's not like i'm going super hardcore (though it feels hardcore for me)

should i rest and let it heal for a few days, only to have it come back again when i start up? Or should i just continue jogging and somehow let it sort itself out?

conventional wisdom on shin splints advises rest, but i've also heard that your body adapts to the pain and conditions itself or something...

Post by **Doombrain** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:21 pm

You have concerns about jogging??? Jesus Christ :lol:

Post by **-Replicant-** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:22 pm

yay shin splints. stretch a lot before and after jogging (toe down, lean forward to stretch the muscle on the front of the shins). time off will cure it, but not too much time (which will make the problem worse when you start again).

Post by **Doombrain** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:22 pm

Seriously, it will stop after time. I used to get it and after a month or so it stopped.

Post by **Doombrain** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:25 pm

Actually it sounds like leg cancer

Post by **implicit** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:31 pm

Continue jogging, I used to have all sorts of pain when I first started running but after about a week you get used to it. I used to do around 30 minutes of light jogging everyday, should probably start doing it again.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:32 pm

Doombrain wrote:Actually it sounds like leg cancer

that's what i thought, but I performed a biopsy and the flesh tasted healthy.

Post by **Billy Bellend** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:35 pm

thats normal as knee and hip stuff when it comes to routine jogging i bet.

slightly built people seem to make good distancers with lessend inevitable jogging relalted injurys that eventuallyt become chronic.

hey maybe imo so i guess

so you should optimise your weight to say oh 117 lbs than the wind will help to

Post by **Zyte -_-** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:44 pm

I hate running on concrete, dont even know why. I think i just prefer running 'surrounded by nature' :S

Post by **Cool Blue** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:48 pm

Jogging is bad for you.

Post by **Billy Bellend** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:50 pm

oh yea nature for sure

there is much less of a cheat to the movement on a soft surface.

much less slam/bounce/redirect type deal

and the buety of nature of corce

Post by **Zyte -_-** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:50 pm

Cool Blue wrote:Jogging is bad for you.

we like to live dangerously..

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed May 25, 2005 4:59 pm

Zyte -_- wrote:I hate running on concrete, dont even know why. I think i just prefer running 'surrounded by nature' :S

yar huh.

indeed shin splints. they go away.

Post by **werldhed** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:35 pm

Zyte -_- wrote:I hate running on concrete, dont even know why. I think i just prefer running 'surrounded by nature' :S

What surface do you run on? If you mean just running on open ground, that's often worse for your legs because of the uneveness of it. Ideally, you should run on a soft track, but not everyone has access to that. I often run on a tar biking/running path that winds through a nature preserve, so it's the best of both worlds. :icon14:

@Julios: I'll reaffirm the shin splint advice already given. It's normal, but give it time to heal up before putting overly heavy stress on your legs. They'll go away as your body gets used to running, but they can lead to injury if aggrevated. Stretch them like mad before you run.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:35 pm

tx for advice all.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:41 pm

werldhed wrote:
Zyte -_- wrote:I hate running on concrete, dont even know why. I think i just prefer running 'surrounded by nature' :S
What surface do you run on? If you mean just running on open ground, that's often worse for your legs because of the uneveness of it. Ideally, you should run on a soft track, but not everyone has access to that. I often run on a tar biking/running path that winds through a nature preserve, so it's the best of both worlds. :icon14:

worse for your legs? where'd you hear that? i do mostly trail running and don't have any ill effects for doing so. what i run is pretty rocky too, not smooth at all.

Post by **andyman** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:44 pm

The fastest way to cure shin splints is to run backwards. No joke. Running backwards will also build up your quads real good too.

Post by **Billy Bellend** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:44 pm

yea but jug no dooubt you hyped all tence and ready .

i dont believe you HAVE to do those when jogging on a hard even surface.

Post by **Fjoggs** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:46 pm

15 mins on a 3k eh? not too bad for someone that doesn't jog much. keep it up.

My name fits this thread.

Post by **werldhed** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:47 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
werldhed wrote:
Zyte -_- wrote:I hate running on concrete, dont even know why. I think i just prefer running 'surrounded by nature' :S
What surface do you run on? If you mean just running on open ground, that's often worse for your legs because of the uneveness of it. Ideally, you should run on a soft track, but not everyone has access to that. I often run on a tar biking/running path that winds through a nature preserve, so it's the best of both worlds. :icon14:

worse for your legs? where'd you hear that? i do mostly trail running and don't have any ill effects for doing so. what i run is pretty rocky too, not smooth at all.

I meant more like running on grass. If you have a dirt path or something that's in decent shape, it no problem. I guess I just assumed he was talking about running on "soft" ground (to me, dirt paths are just as high-impact as tar) -- you know, where the ground is uneven and you can cactch your ankle at an odd angle.

Post by **Fjoggs** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:49 pm

grass > concrete.
The strain is greatly reduced on the knees and ankles.
Also, it strenghtens your bones and improves your balance.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:56 pm

werldhed wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
werldhed wrote: What surface do you run on? If you mean just running on open ground, that's often worse for your legs because of the uneveness of it. Ideally, you should run on a soft track, but not everyone has access to that. I often run on a tar biking/running path that winds through a nature preserve, so it's the best of both worlds. :icon14:

worse for your legs? where'd you hear that? i do mostly trail running and don't have any ill effects for doing so. what i run is pretty rocky too, not smooth at all.
I meant more like running on grass. If you have a dirt path or something that's in decent shape, it no problem. I guess I just assumed he was talking about running on "soft" ground (to me, dirt paths are just as high-impact as tar) -- you know, where the ground is uneven and you can cactch your ankle at an odd angle.

well, i can agree that it can cause greater injury. the trails i run are rocky and not flat at all. but, it helps the muscles that stabilize and help your balance. your ankles need to be up to snuff before attemtping trail runs though, that's for sure.

Post by **Zyte -_-** » Wed May 25, 2005 5:57 pm

werldhed wrote: What surface do you run on? If you mean just running on open ground, that's often worse for your legs because of the uneveness of it. Ideally, you should run on a soft track, but not everyone has access to that. I often run on a tar biking/running path that winds through a nature preserve, so it's the best of both worlds. :icon14:

i am quite lucky with my location. I still live with mummy and daddy in a pretty green area. Also, there is a bit of heathland just across the road in front of my house with some nice trails on it. Its not too busy with other joggers and stuff.

But im gonna study so i will cut down on the running and gyms i think :<

Post by **inphlict** » Wed May 25, 2005 6:25 pm

You probally need better shoes if you have problems running on concrete. I find it hard to run on grass because I don't have as much grip, especially when it's all wet at 7 am.

But keep running, the pain goes away after about a week. Skip a day if you need to.