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You still haven't given your condolences about my mother's death. You are morally bankrupt, sir.
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I bet Eraser wouldn't bat an eye if an active serial rapist or child molester died at the tender age of 81.
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Transient wrote:
Eraser wrote:I'm not saying I liked him, but saying "good riddance" about someone that just died from brain cancer seems morally wrong. The fact that he stood for things that arguably are morally wrong doesn't make it right.
LOL what kind of inane reasoning is that? Whose morals are offended by someone saying good riddance about his death? Are his family members lurking Q3W as they grieve? When Antonin Scalia died in 2016 and I said 'fuck that guy', I don't remember you crying about it. Then again, Scalia died in his sleep. I guess the cancer washed away McCain's misdeeds. :rolleyes:
I don't recall seeing a thread about Scalia or posting in it. It doesn't say anything about my opinion. As for morals, it's not about offending his family or anything, I just don't think it's real tasteful to say things like that about someone who just died from a terrible disease. It says something about your character when you do.
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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Also I find it interesting that in one case, Jerry is sure about the morality but in the other case it's arguable.
Because the first thing was my own opinion and the latter was an observation about McCain in general. I mean, as much as I disagree with many of the things he said, there are probably more than enough people willing to argue that he did the right thing. I'm not saying those people are right, but see the use of the word "arguably" as a disclaimer that I don't want to get involved in the discussion about how bad McCain really was or was not. It's an acknowledgement that other people may have different opinions about him, without the intention of validating those opinions
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Transient wrote:You still haven't given your condolences about my mother's death. You are morally bankrupt, sir.
I'm terribly sorry about what happened to your mother and if it means anything to you, you have my condolences, but you have to acknowledge that this post of yours is a really cheap shot at nothing.
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Why does it matter how he died? My opinion of the guy isn't going to change because he didn't die peacefully and painlessly. It sucks, he got a raw deal in the end. It doesn't define his life and shouldn't color your opinion of his legacy.
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Eraser wrote:you have to acknowledge that this post of yours is a really cheap shot at nothing.
I meant it as a cheap shot at myself. The point I was trying (poorly) to make was that I wasn't fishing for sympathy. I was just using a personal anecdote to show that I take this matter seriously.
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Transient wrote:It [...] shouldn't color your opinion of his legacy.
It doesn't. You may have noticed I'm not saying he's a war hero and POW like Gramps and lars are doing.
I understand the sentiment that you're glad he's no longer having any political influence, but I just think there are more tasteful ways to express that sentiment.
Maybe I'm being extra sensitive to this right now because I'm dealing with a case of (brain) cancer in my family right now.
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Eraser wrote:I just think there are more tasteful ways to express that sentiment.
Well we aren't really known for our tact around here, amirite?
Eraser wrote:Maybe I'm being extra sensitive to this right now because I'm dealing with a case of (brain) cancer in my family right now.
That sucks. Cancer comes for us all. :down:
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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
seremtan wrote:PuFF is actually getting angry that not enough people are shitting on a dead guy's grave for his liking :olo:
Not quite. I'm angry that people are white washing the man's deeds after his death. I guess if Hermann Goring had died of brain cancer everyone would have been like, oh no don't be mean to him he had brain cancer...

wtf
Herman Goering :olo:
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McCain is complicit in the deaths of over 1 million people. The comparison is apt.
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McCain sucked. He also gave us Palin who paved the way for Trump.
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