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[lars63]

More Parents Are Putting Kids In A Trance

Hypnosis has taken on a new focus. More and more parents are now putting their kids under a hypnotic trance, but some say the practice may be going too far.

Eric Ferrer-Alfaro, 10, has HDHD. His mother doesn’t want to medicate him, and nothing else has worked. She’s turned to hypnotism.

“We’ve tried meditation, relaxation, things like that,” Silvana Ferrer said.

She said he has trouble focusing in school, and she’s optimistic this will help.

“I’m hoping for the teachers not to call me anymore, or at least call me less,” Ferrer said.

Hypnotherapist Lisa Machenberg said she’s hypnotized close to a thousand children, including her own.

“I started hypnotizing the children at seven months to sleep quickly, calmly, soundly, and deeply all through the night,” she said.

She later hypnotized them to improve their performance in sports and at school.

She said she is essentially teaching Eric to hypnotize himself, which will help when facing a challenging task.

“Whenever you want to focus you breathe in on the word focus, exhale on the word powerful,” he said.

As Machenberg explained, the hypnosis allows him to complete homework assignments.

“When he wants to sit and do his homework, when he needs to listen to the teacher, when he needs to curb his impulses — all he needs to do is breath in that power word and it resets the neutrons,” she said.

Afterwards, a short homework session went well, and Eric hopes that continues.

“I hope it will help me because tomorrow I have a lot of division and a lot of tests on math,” he said.

Machneberg said there’s power to be harnessed.

“Let’s learn how to use hypno parenting to consciously influence our children to be more peaceful in the house, to have focused concentration,” she said.

Psychologist Dr. Sanam Hafeez said putting kids in a trance is going too far and shouldn’t take the place of good parenting skills.

“The idea is not to gain control of your child’s mind, but it’s to teach them what’s right, what’s appropriate, what’s desirable, so they can have control over their own mind,” she said.

Mental health experts say hypnosis is more appropriate to treat conditions such as extreme pain or bed wetting, or serious trauma such as the loss of a parent.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2017/01/18/ ... -and-kids/

PS: There is a short film at the site of this news story on this if you want to watch it before you decide

[lars63]

Well this is a little longer than I thought it would be. I'm not sure what I think, we certainly didn't have this available when I was raising my kids. Most of the time we just nailed them to the wall. *grin*

[Captain]

^That explains so much

[lars63]

I'm a old one,*grin*, since I never got to be a little cunt either

[plained]

anythings better than kid drugs i guess.

lots of "cry under the boob" emotionally weak kids around these days tho

[seremtan]

all joking aside, i wouldn't be at all surprised if the rise of ADHD amongst kids corresponded with the decline in corporal punishment

either ADHD is a new thing (and has some environmental cause) or it's been around forever and no one bothered to distinguish between it and plain old boredom. the article above references inability to concentrate at school. well duh. school can be boring as fuck - that's just normal behaviour when you'd rather be out doing something more fun

[plained]

been around forever

ADHD are some of the smartest kids

there are no systems for "smart kids" anymore

just "kids with problems that need fixing"

[lars63]

all joking aside, i wouldn't be at all surprised if the rise of ADHD amongst kids corresponded with the decline in corporal punishment

either ADHD is a new thing (and has some environmental cause) or it's been around forever and no one bothered to distinguish between it and plain old boredom. the article above references inability to concentrate at school. well duh. school can be boring as fuck - that's just normal behaviour when you'd rather be out doing something more fun

I have to agree, in school when I was young the teachers had no problem sending us kids to the Principal for a good spanking if you weren't paying attention in class, cutting up and other stuff, you would be surprised how a good spanking can give you focus when you realize you could be in for another if you didn't get your school work done. Just saying. I'm sure there are all kinds of opinions on this, above is mine.
As for the hypnotizing I have had no experience with this so have no opinion, I guess if it works its a good tool. Is it good for our kids though? I wonder

[Captain]

all joking aside, i wouldn't be at all surprised if the rise of ADHD amongst kids corresponded with the decline in corporal punishment

Trying to beat sense into a child with a genetic condition is absolutely ridiculous. If you raise a kid who behaves out of fear of getting beaten, they're more likely to become mentally handicapped as an adult.

Corporal punishment linked to mental health problems later in life

I would say the prevalence of ADHD is a genetic problem that stems from the increase of chemicals in the air, pesticides in food, and the use of tobacco and alcohol among parents. And in North America, every problem is treated with some kind of horrible hormone-altering "medication" that creates more mentally challenged people dependent on drugs.

[Transient]

A swift back-handing over the course of a childhood can totally fuck with a kid.

[lars63]

I have to agree with Memphis, nothing wrong with a whack or two on the kid as long as it is kept within reason. Lots of kids well my generation and I'm sure others got a whack or three while growing up. Teaches a kid respect. Just saying now carry on

[seremtan]

Corporal punishment linked to mental health problems later in life

"The researchers noted the study found an association, and not a cause-effect link..."

also, it's worthwhile being wary when people talk of "mental health problems". given how much of the human condition has been medicalised in recent decades (witness the bloating of the DSM over just a couple of editions, for example), and given also our cultural obsession with and excessive valorisation of "happiness", it can mean almost anything or almost nothing. this doesn't mean that there's no such thing as real mental health problems, only that the label can be applied where it isn't appropriate

I would say the prevalence of ADHD is a genetic problem that stems from the increase of chemicals in the air, pesticides in food, and the use of tobacco and alcohol among parents.

i assume you mean a genetic predisposition toward a condition which is only expressed in the presence of certain environmental factors, i.e. a person might have a genetic predisposition toward being able to successfully control a spherical object on the ground with their feet, but this predisposition will only be expressed because someone invented football

maybe, but i'd like to see a better argument than "bad things cause other bad things"

[seremtan]

speaking of which, there was an experiment done once where the experimenter sent 12 people with no mental health issues to several psych hospitals for evaluation, and 11 of them were 'diagnosed' with schizophrenia. the guy then published, and one of the hospitals claimed they would never be fooled by a fake patient so the experimenter said he'd send them some to see if they could tell the difference. that hospital then identified 20% of their new intake as 'fake' - only thing was, the experimenter never sent anyone

forget what this experiment was called, but it's a great illustration of the bullshit that abides in the world of mental health

[lars63]

Well that doesn't sound the least bit encouraging especially if you have to go the hospital. Note to self, make sure insurance is paid up. I suppose having a good lawyer on retainer couldn't hurt either

[seremtan]

do you have mental health problems?

not sure how paid up insurance would help, or a good lawyer. lawyers aren't known for their medical credentials

[Ryoki]

speaking of which, there was an experiment done once where the experimenter sent 12 people with no mental health issues to several psych hospitals for evaluation, and 11 of them were 'diagnosed' with schizophrenia. the guy then published, and one of the hospitals claimed they would never be fooled by a fake patient so the experimenter said he'd send them some to see if they could tell the difference. that hospital then identified 20% of their new intake as 'fake' - only thing was, the experimenter never sent anyone

forget what this experiment was called, but it's a great illustration of the bullshit that abides in the world of mental health

Shame you don't recall what the research was exactly, I'd be interested in reading it. From what I know of the intake process this should be incredibly unlikely, unless it was either a long time ago when standards were lower or the intakes were done under false pretenses.

Who goes to a mental institution for an 'evaluation' in the first place? This story stinks sir.

[seremtan]

it was on reddit last week, apologies for not chiselling every detail accurately into my memory. it may not have been a hospital. also, was in U$$$A

[Eraser]

also, was in U$$$A

The shining beacon of high quality mental health care.
'nuff said

[Eraser]

Oh, no one commenting on the fact that hypnosis is mostly just bollocks?

[Captain]

it was on reddit last week

lol

[seremtan]

just kidding, it was 9gag

[Captain]

oh ew