Shooting in Munich, South Germany

[losCHUNK]

don't believe photographs

And pay extra attention to quotes

[CZghost]

@Memphis: News servers should be ideally as objective as they can be. Objective means they write about something from neutral point of view. Since this is nearly impossible, the easiest way is to write from few points of views that should in general keep the article neutral. But mass media do not respect this and always write from shallow point of view determined by the general power over them. Small alternative media may be a bit better, but you should never trust anything said on the internet. The only way to stay objectively informed is to seek for informations from the real sources, which are people. The most effective way is through radio waves. You can talk with Chinesse, you can talk with Japanesse, you can talk with Hawaians. In today world of Internet anyone can say anything (well, that's not just so true since surveillance is on upgoing power since Internet start), so it's really impossible to actually say that "this" is truthful source. Also Internet becomes part of censorship and surveillance is stronger and stronger, so the only way to actually keep yourselves anonymous and objectively informed, is to use Tor. You can find really interesting Onion websites in the Tor network. Few of these include also news servers. These are hidden from the actual surface web and can be accessed only by using Tor (or Tor2web service). This is pretty cool thing to keep up going. But infortunately, there are not much many search engines that can actually search though Onion websites and Tor links listing is not complete. And when I tried to search for the Munich shooting on the Onion websites, nothing about that happening actually came out of the results. Maybe these news servers are still starting up and truly anonymous and liberty may become when Internet becomes really strongly censored and surveilled. Before that happens, I still keep my eye on the Tor and be prepared for anything that comes out in next days...

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

hey czghost did you notice that this shooter guy hated immigrants and it wasn't an ISIS attack? Where's your rant against the dangers of right wing immigrant haters like yourself?

[Captain]

He was a Breivik-loving Nazi, just like our little czech dipshit.

[CZghost]

Nope. I didn't realise. How do you know that information? From TV? From newspapers? From Internet news? From your neighbour? Do not confuse patriotism with rasism. It's a great difference! I hate people who do not want to respect general laws and national rules of the desired land they wish to visit. That means that muslim that respects our laws and our national rules and habitats is less hamful, than muslim, that shouts out Jihad. By that mean I would have no problem with that harmless muslim rather than with that harmful muslim that doesn't follow the visited nation. The same the shooting guy from Munich. Why some people from Munich say he was shouting out Jihad when it isn't true? Those are the Nazi oriented dipshits? Be that gentle and shut the fuck up Dopefish...

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07 ... n-outside/

[Captain]

Arab indiscriminately kills Arabs, whites, Asians, blacks, etc. = terrorism
German targets and kills Arabs = "Police said the killings were not terrorist-related."

lol

[seremtan]

don't believe photographs

And pay extra atention to qoutes

point

[Ferrao10]

"what's wrong with russian media?"
The fact that they are very fast to jump on a bandwaggon that tells incorrect information. Two cases that made me mad having been those "mass rapes" that you mentioned and that just didn't happen. The other one being the news of that allegedly gang-raped and murdered russian-german girl, what was her name? Doesn't matter, didn't happen either. As was later proven, it was an internet hoax, invented by some right-wing eastblock-minds to blame Merkel and her refugee policy. Did the russian media explain in a follow up that they made a mistake by taking those claims as true? Not to their readers, as far as I know.

"bombing in Ansbach Germany"
We've had 4 incidents in Germany during those last 2 weeks. Würzburg, Munich, Ansbach and Reutlingen. All 4 of them single guys carrying them out. All 4 of them of unstable mental condition. The Ansbach guy, a declined syrian refugee, had twice before tried to commit suicide and was to be pushed off to Bulgaria. Nice country there, posh and friendly with fugees /sarcasm off. The only case that can really be traced back to IS at this point is Ansbach. Although I don't give too much on that, seeing his condition and background. He was a nutter in a hopeless situation.
What I want to say is, none of those incidents can be compared in scale or in reason to Paris, Brussels or, prior, Madrid and the like. Even Nice, I'd call a single nutjob as that guy seems to have had some mental conditions, as well. I don't want to play those actions down but they seem to have been less structured.

"did you notice that this shooter guy hated immigrants"
Where did you take that from? The fact that he studied Breivik's manifest and that his victims were mostly with a migrant backstory?
The latter was due to the place that he chose to run amok being in a quarter that is inhabited by a lot of germans with migrant backgrounds. German-Turkish citizens, most of them.
And let's face it, Breivik is the one man army with the most success. So it is only plausible to read his manifest, as he gives tips on how to prepare for an assault on such a massive scale. I did myself download and read that thing after that asshole did what he did to not understand him, but to see how his mind clicked.
The Munich guy, I'd call a typical school-shooter. Except for that it seems as he wasn't only bullied at school but on the internet as well, so he chose the public place and most of his victims were of young/his age.

"He was a Breivik-loving Nazi"
He was German with Iranian roots. Definitely not a Nazi.
"just like our little czech dipshit"
I didn't say that.

"Why some people from Munich say he was shouting out Jihad"
Source?

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

Nope. I didn't realise. How do you know that information? From TV? From newspapers? From Internet news? From your neighbour? Do not confuse patriotism with rasism. It's a great difference! I hate people who do not want to respect general laws and national rules of the desired land they wish to visit. That means that muslim that respects our laws and our national rules and habitats is less hamful, than muslim, that shouts out Jihad. By that mean I would have no problem with that harmless muslim rather than with that harmful muslim that doesn't follow the visited nation. The same the shooting guy from Munich. Why some people from Munich say he was shouting out Jihad when it isn't true? Those are the Nazi oriented dipshits? Be that gentle and shut the fuck up Dopefish...

[Captain]

He was German with Iranian roots. Definitely not a Nazi.

So...bomb Iran?

[seremtan]

bomb Germany

oh wai...

[Captain]

oh shoot

oh shit!

[xer0s]

I realize there's been a large number of refugees admitted into the country, but why is Germany being targeted specifically? The fuckheads are simply targeting any of the western cities, and Germany is easy access?

[Transient]

ISIS picks their targets by playing Pin the Tail on the Donkey.

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

I realize there's been a large number of refugees admitted into the country, but why is Germany being targeted specifically? The fuckheads are simply targeting any of the western cities, and Germany is easy access?

a) this guy wasn't a refugee.
b) this guy wasn't with ISIS
c) refugees aren't ISIS

[CZghost]

But ISIS always take these action to themselves as they sympatise with these actions as these actions are under their motto. And if the guy shouts "Allah Akhbar", what do you mean ISIS will do? Take over and say this action was performed by their member And the guy had been muslim origin, from country, where ISIS headquarter operates now... No shit that this guy was born in Germany, he born to immigrants from Syria and got manipulated to ISIS ideology. That's really bad for Europe. These guys are easy targets of the ISIS ideology and thus the threat for Europe is still here no matter, if they are already part of ISIS crew or just gonna become... And more and more immigrants are coming to Europe. And I ask: What will we do next?

[Captain]

You should go kill those filthy immigrants in the name of your religion, CZionghost

[seremtan]

no one in the Czech Republic has religion. it's pretty atheist

[Tsakali]

I bet it makes all this even more obnoxious to them

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

ISIS picks their targets by playing Pin the Tail on the Donkey.

There are waaaaaaaaaaaaay more Muslims dying at the hands of ISIS as there are westerners.

[losCHUNK]

There's alotta donkeys

[CZghost]

Maybe in name of freedom, I'm not religionally based

[feedback]

ISIS picks their targets by playing Pin the Tail on the Donkey.

There are waaaaaaaaaaaaay more Muslims dying at the hands of ISIS as there are westerners.

Yes. Because ISIS is actually in control or has bases in those countries. Derpppppppp.

[Ferrao10]

...No shit that this guy was born in Germany, he born to immigrants from Syria and got manipulated to ISIS ideology....

Man, man, man, this amount of ignorance and incompetence in writing a post on a forum...
Dude, read before posting something!
His parents were not Syrian, they were Iranian! I already wrote that here in this very thread. And you can read it everywhere on the fucking internet.
He was born here, so his parents left Iran at least 18 years ago. You can google yourself what had happened in Iran 18+ years ago to guess what their reason for leaving the country might have been. Not that it would matter as to why their son freaked out.
Nowadays, Iran is not a supporting country of ISIS, quite the opposite. They are actively fighting it.

For all German speaking visitors, this article is just pure gold. Despite the tragic story, I had to laugh so hard, as it shows the absurdity of the situation just like a reflection of the absurdity that the German society is in, right now.
I'll do a translation in the coming days, it's just so good.