Vicente Fox's comments...(blacks and mexicans)

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Vicente Fox's comments...(blacks and mexicans)

Post by tnf »

Soo, el presidente is in a bit of trouble for this comment:
"There’s no doubt that the Mexican men and women — full of dignity, willpower and a capacity for work — are doing the work that not even blacks want to do in the United States,” Fox told a meeting of the Texas-Mexico Frozen Food Council in the western city of Puerto Vallarta on Friday."

They seem to have their own Bush.
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Post by Geebs »

So what? He's not implying the blacks aren't capable of doing the work, nor is he implying that blacks in general don't want to work. He's just saying that mexicans will work for peanuts, hence invest in us
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Post by tnf »

I'm not horribly offended by it, but it does seem to portray a lack of tact...there are many ways he could have made the point you describe.
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Post by Geebs »

It's more a reflection of the way that you can't ever mention race without someone getting offended these days.

Was watching a bit of The Dambusters yesterday, cos it was on telly. I have to say I winced a bit each time the dog's name got mentioned....
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Post by eepberries »

lol

My uncle, who isn't racist, once told me basically the same thing. He said something like
"Now I don't want you to think I'm racist, but it's just pretty apparent that hispanics, expecially Mexicans, are ready and willing to work. Now the black folks, some just don't seem to have the effort or care, and if they do, they're in much better paying jobs."
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Geebs wrote:It's more a reflection of the way that you can't ever mention race without someone getting offended these days.

Was watching a bit of The Dambusters yesterday, cos it was on telly. I have to say I winced a bit each time the dog's name got mentioned....
You idiot he's stereotyping an entire race as typicaly doing this "type" of work which is obviously undesirable low paying work.

Or in other words he's saying all niggers have shit jobs and even they won't do this shit but the spics will. Did you understand that?

Instead of using race as an example he should have just said normal americans or something else politicaly acceptable. That's just rude.
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Post by Geebs »

What, so drawing attention to a social inequality is the same thing as telling the disadvantaged that they're losers? You've been watching too many Eddie Murphy films. There are no skyscrapers full of black accountants in the US.
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Post by [xeno]Julios »

Geebs wrote: There are no skyscrapers full of black accountants in the US.
:lol:
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Geebs wrote:What, so drawing attention to a social inequality is the same thing as telling the disadvantaged that they're losers? You've been watching too many Eddie Murphy films. There are no skyscrapers full of black accountants in the US.
That's because idiots like you keeping putting them down as a race stiffling they're ability to grow.

I'm all for equal rights, I think things like mandatory hiring of minorities is wrong and racist. I think people should be hired based on qualifications only. The problem isn't one all encompassing trait that's causing this it's a bunch of little issues causing a greater overall problem. That's just one. People in a position of power putting down a certain race or gender as a whole is another. Idiots not realizing the impact a statement can make to a lot of people is another and there's a hundred more like it contributing to an overall problem with racism.
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Kracus wrote:
Geebs wrote:What, so drawing attention to a social inequality is the same thing as telling the disadvantaged that they're losers? You've been watching too many Eddie Murphy films. There are no skyscrapers full of black accountants in the US.
That's because idiots like you keeping putting them down as a race stiffling they're ability to grow.
This may be the single dumbest thing you've ever said.
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Re: Vicente Fox's comments...(blacks and mexicans)

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tnf wrote: They seem to have their own Bush.
vicente fox is 10x the president bush is
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Post by phantasmagoria »

Geebs wrote:Was watching a bit of The Dambusters yesterday, cos it was on telly. I have to say I winced a bit each time the dog's name got mentioned....
Before I was more aware of the world, we got a black labrador, and I was always obsessed with The Dambusters when I was little and i wanted to call him Nigger, it took a great deal of effort for my parents to put me off the idea without telling me it was racist.
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Post by Geebs »

Heh. The other day I was on the way to work and reading an ebook of collected Lovecraft stories on my Palm (talentless hack by the way, don't know why he's so popular with nerds), specifically "The rats in the walls". The protagonist has a black cat called "******-man"

About 10 minutes in, I remembered that I work in Edmonton. I'm feeling rather lucky to be alive :D
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Post by Shmee »

Geebs wrote:So what? He's not implying the blacks aren't capable of doing the work, nor is he implying that blacks in general don't want to work. He's just saying that mexicans will work for peanuts, hence invest in us
No he's implying that blacks are generally the lowest caste in America, and by and large he's still right. Obviously that's a very generalistic statement that doesn't apply to everyone but it ruffles a lot of feathers because it points out directly how fucked up our system still is.
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Post by Shmee »

Kracus wrote:
Geebs wrote:It's more a reflection of the way that you can't ever mention race without someone getting offended these days.

Was watching a bit of The Dambusters yesterday, cos it was on telly. I have to say I winced a bit each time the dog's name got mentioned....
You idiot he's stereotyping an entire race as typicaly doing this "type" of work which is obviously undesirable low paying work.

Or in other words he's saying all ***** have shit jobs and even they won't do this shit but the spics will. Did you understand that?

Instead of using race as an example he should have just said normal americans or something else politicaly acceptable. That's just rude.
Or you can read my first post in this thread for a more acurate description. Racial tensions are only what you make them..
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Re: Vicente Fox's comments...(blacks and mexicans)

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Chupacabra wrote:
tnf wrote: They seem to have their own Bush.
vicente fox is 10x the president bush is
And 10 * 0 = ?
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Kracus, what can I say. You're a fucking idiot.
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lol, it's like watching a train wreck
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Post by sliver »

tnf wrote:"There’s no doubt that the Mexican men and women — full of dignity, willpower and a capacity for work — are doing the work that not even blacks want to do in the United States,”
Geebs wrote:He's not implying the blacks aren't capable of doing the work, nor is he implying that blacks in general don't want to work.
Well, obviously; he's saying that blacks put up with the worst jobs in the US.

The only people who should be offended are the government honkies who aren't doing enough to even things out.
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Post by HM-PuFFNSTuFF »

Massive Quasars wrote:Kracus, what can I say. You're a fucking idiot.
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