Looking to Put Together a New System This Fall

Post by **sirstrongbad** » Sat May 14, 2005 5:01 pm

so i've decided to put together a new workstation. i've been using my current setup for almost 3 years now (amd xp 2100) and am looking to do a complete overhaul that might last me 3 years again. my budget will be $3000. (monitor not included - i already have that part). i was messing around on newegg and came up with this setup....

my saved wishlist at newegg

let's see what you guys come up with...

Post by **reefsurfer** » Sat May 14, 2005 5:07 pm

That looks good, and when games start to slow down on yer rig, all you gotta do is buy another geforce 6800 gt and put in yer motherboard slot(maybe 2 years from now..and they wont cost many bucks lol)

Im building a new one aswell, but i will wait until the deal with the bank is done and then im starting to build a phat gaming rig.

Post by **sirstrongbad** » Sat May 14, 2005 5:17 pm

that configuration already has 2 6800gt's in it.

i figured i might as well go all-out while i'm putting the machine together from the get-go.

Post by **sirstrongbad** » Sat May 14, 2005 5:17 pm

what i was trying to find (unsuccessfully) is a graphics card that would support a 30" Apple Cinema Display. i couldn't find any on newegg that have Dual-Link DVI.

Post by **Psyche911** » Sat May 14, 2005 5:19 pm

Looks pretty good. But if you're spending that kind of money, spend a little extra on the San Diego core. 1MB L2 cache for what looks to be about a $50 premium over the same speed with only 512K. I think it's worth it.

Post by **Psyche911** » Sat May 14, 2005 5:22 pm

I don't know anything about "Dual-Link DVI." If a card has 2 DVI ports, that's not enough? You need a special card? In that case, you might not be able to run that off a PC...I don't know.

Post by **dzjepp** » Sat May 14, 2005 5:36 pm

lol, so the venice core is outdated already? and we have the chicago, errr, san diego core to go by now? :icon32:

I'd say get 2gb of ram, seeing as you work lots with media-intensive apps like photoshop, otherwise it looks like a good setup.

Post by **sirstrongbad** » Sat May 14, 2005 5:40 pm

yeah, Dual-Link DVI utilizes all 24 of the DVI pins (which are required for the 30" Apple Cinema Display).

i have 3GB of RAM in that configuration, by the way.

thanks for the tip on the San Diego core. by the time i put this system together, however, i may decide to do a dual core chip instead. i didn't see them anywhere on newegg...

Post by **Psyche911** » Sat May 14, 2005 5:52 pm

No, Venice isn't outdated. If I were building a system, I'd get a Venice. The San Diego is essentially the Venice but with double the L2 cache.

Venice = 3000, 3200, 3500, 3800 @ 1.8, 2.0, 2.2, 2.4GHz all 512K L2 cache

San Diego = 3700, 4000 @ 2.2, 2.4GHz with 1MB L2 cache

So the lowest San Diego is the same speed as the Venice 3500+ but with twice the L2 cache. Nobody knows how high they will go yet. Peope are overclocking them to 2.7-2.8GHz on air...

And ssb:
Dual cores will be out this fall at earliest. Probably late fall. And the cheapest one will be close to $600. So, depending on what programs you intend to "work" with on this "work"station, it's either a great idea (dual CPU replacement) or just a so-so idea ( very expensive CPU with 1 core unused in the next year or so).

Post by **booker** » Sat May 14, 2005 6:00 pm

if your going to spend the money you might want to get a 512 mb vid card or get two nvidia's with SLI

Post by **bitWISE** » Sat May 14, 2005 6:40 pm

I'm running almost the exact same system man!

Venice core: I've got the 3500

Power supply: Its black, very quiet and the removable wires own.

Motherboard: So far so good but my primary nic was acting up so I had to disable it.

Hard drives: Wait for good SATA2 to come out

Video cards: I'm not running SLI yet so I can't comment

Case: Looks kinda gay...

Post by **sirstrongbad** » Sat May 14, 2005 7:32 pm

booker wrote:if your going to spend the money you might want to get a 512 mb vid card or get two nvidia's with SLI

hrmmmmm.... interesting... i might look into that.

and the power supply posted in this topic looks quite a bit better than the one i chose.

the case doesn't really matter, i guess... i like Lian Li cases, personally. also, the fact that it has front panel USB/Firewire/Audio was a big plus.

i may wait until the dual core chips come out if they will be that much better. i do game a bit, but i spend most of my time working in Graphic / Web Design applications. thus i called it a "workstation." i was thinking of doing a dual-G5 Apple system, but i would still like to have a large choice of games to play.

Post by **Psyche911** » Sat May 14, 2005 8:59 pm

I have the OCZ Powerstream PSU. They are fairly highly regarded, but have green LED fans which I don't care for. But just don't get that Ultra X-Connect unless you want to destroy your $3,000 computer.

Post by **sirstrongbad** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:03 pm

so in that case the Antec Neo PSU is a better choice? i've only ever used Antec PSU's in the computers i've built for myself or others. never once had a problem.

Post by **Psyche911** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:05 pm

If you really want modular, yes.
I think my PSU is the best you can get for under $200. And it's damn quiet. The only thing I don't like are the green fans.

This is mine:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817104152
They also have a 420 & 600 watt.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:13 pm

take a look, maxtor has 16mb cache SATA drives...

Post by **SOAPboy** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:18 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:take a look, maxtor has 16mb cache SATA drives...

ohhhhh

Guess im going sata finally

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:27 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:take a look, maxtor has 16mb cache SATA drives...

kicks self in face for not getting a sata mobo

Post by **Psyche911** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:31 pm

The cheapest 16MB one is $185 at newegg. A bit expensive, aint it? Will SATAII be replacing SATA(I) or what?

Post by **bitWISE** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:37 pm

Psyche911 wrote:The cheapest 16MB one is $185 at newegg. A bit expensive, aint it? Will SATAII be replacing SATA(I) or what?

It should be. SATAII implements command queueing which is the major benefit of the SATA architecture.

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:50 pm

according to me, that is not true..

the drives ( that i've build 8 computer with now ) are SATA Gen1! they are 16meg cache and holy FUCKBALLS they own the living Fuck out of my WB 8meger SATA drive..

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:51 pm

i would also like to add, that.. they Might NOW be sata Gen 2.. But for sure, i dont know.

Post by **Oldfriend** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:55 pm

what I don't get is, will a 64 bit system benefit in performance with just a 64 bit OS or do the rest of your software have to be 64 as well?

I'm guessing all the imbeded features with the OS will run better?

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:56 pm

they are 16meg Sata1's... re-read what i said.

Post by **Oldfriend** » Sat May 14, 2005 9:57 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:they are 16meg Sata1's... re-read what i said.

heh post deleted

ps hi