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So how many people do you think died?

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:08 pm
by shiznit
Let's see who gets the closest. My guess would be 9,851 once they count all the bodies of people who died during and after Katrina in all the areas.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:09 pm
by nsaP
What a grim game.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:11 pm
by shiznit
Yes I know, but I remember during 911 my friends were sayings no less then 50,000 people died because the buildings and the subway had a lot of people.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:17 pm
by Mr.Magnetichead
9,852

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:24 pm
by Foo
shiznit wrote:Yes I know, but I remember during 911 my friends were sayings no less then 50,000 people died because the buildings and the subway had a lot of people.
Is your point that they grossly overestimated? Because the real figure is 2,986

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:39 pm
by shiznit
Yes, the WTC death toll was 2,752.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:48 pm
by Guest
I don't know if there were like 600,000 people
Unless some have a real positive mind or can find someone who can change their life, most of them are already half dead.
Pete

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:49 pm
by tnf
pete wrote:I don't know if there were like 600,000 people
Unless some have a real positive mind or can find someone who can change their life, most of them are already half dead.
Pete
you can't be half dead.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2005 11:58 pm
by Guest
tnf wrote:
pete wrote:I don't know if there were like 600,000 people
Unless some have a real positive mind or can find someone who can change their life, most of them are already half dead.
Pete
you can't be half dead.
Their mind I meant
They will be on antidepressant pills all of their life
Pete

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:03 am
by Foo
shiznit wrote:Yes, the WTC death toll was 2,752.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_ ... Fatalities

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:09 am
by eepberries
pete wrote:Their mind I meant
They will be on antidepressant pills all of their life
Pete
What?

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:15 am
by Foo
Pete seems to think after experiencing hurricane katrina and the resulting mess, everyone will be on medication.

Did that happen after the world wars?

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:16 am
by shiznit
Foo wrote:
shiznit wrote:Yes, the WTC death toll was 2,752.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_ ... Fatalities
I see, I thought you where talking about the towers only.

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:19 am
by Big Kahuna Burger
Foo wrote:Pete seems to think after experiencing hurricane katrina and the resulting mess, everyone will be on medication.

Did that happen after the world wars?
Devils advocate: Did they have those medications after the world wars?

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:44 am
by Foo
Big Kahuna Burger wrote:
Foo wrote:Pete seems to think after experiencing hurricane katrina and the resulting mess, everyone will be on medication.

Did that happen after the world wars?
Devils advocate: Did they have those medications after the world wars?
Half my point. There seemed to be the notion in what Pete said that terrible tragedy is followed by depression and a lifetime of drugs.

In mentioning drugs, presumably meaning the drugs themselves are somehow a big probem, and not the depression.

I guess this one could get messy.

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:42 am
by ajerara
it's called post traumatic stress, and after the world wars they did have some medications maybe lithium, but i think they only used them on severe mental disorders. For everybody else it was just get over it. Of course, there was always shock therapy.

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:05 am
by R00k
I'm probably going to be called a wingnut, but I am starting to wonder if the reason noone is being allowed in (like the Red Cross, aid from other countries, aid from other states), is because they are trying to hide the real number of dead for political reasons. I'm afraid there could even be over 100,000 but of course I definitely hope I am wrong.

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:37 am
by ajerara
yup, I'm thinking that myself, the greater number of dead there are, the worse of a tyrant Bush is going to seem, expect a cover up. I think the U.N. should send in observers to monitor the body count.

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:13 pm
by Guest
I doubt very much the US will actualy give an acurate count of the dead to be perfectly honest so we'll never really know.

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:15 pm
by Don Carlos
4.586

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:16 pm
by blood.angel
Kracus wrote:I doubt very much the US will actualy give an acurate count of the dead to be perfectly honest so we'll never really know.
And then some of the dead will mysteriously vote Republican in 2006.

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:20 pm
by Foo
You can't conceal the deaths of people like that, since they have family and friends who will still be alive.

I expect the figures to be accurate when they're eventually worked out.

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:28 pm
by R00k
You can't conceal people from their families and friends - but if only one organization is responsible for getting them out, then only that organization will know what the true number was, unless there's some kind of grass-roots organizing to compare and compile lists.

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:29 pm
by Guest
Foo wrote:You can't conceal the deaths of people like that, since they have family and friends who will still be alive.

I expect the figures to be accurate when they're eventually worked out.
That's not true, you say a couple thousand died if 10,000 died and I doubt anyone would know the difference unless they began collecting their own stats. Which isn't really that easy to do either.

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 3:32 pm
by blood.angel
Foo wrote:You can't conceal the deaths of people like that, since they have family and friends who will still be alive.

I expect the figures to be accurate when they're eventually worked out.
Right, if I tell you that 3000 died would you not assume that your 4-5 dead family and friends are counted in that total? Or would you go 'No, you are not counting my lot in that!'.

The numbers will be lowballed to make it not look as bad for Bush. Hell if they can do it with their own soldiers in Iraq they could do it to some poor assed minoirity sector too.