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Volleyball question

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:36 am
by [xeno]Julios
So I'm starting to get quite into beach volleyball, and am trying to improve my game.

Right now i'm trying to figure out the topspin serve - read a few descriptions but there are a few ambiguities that remain - in particular whether the movement should be like throwing a baseball, or whether it should be like "pushing" a shotput.

I think video demonstrations would be a great help - i don't have a tv so i've never really watched volleyball on tv - any ideas where i can find some good free demonstrations?

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:38 am
by Chupacabra
hm...maybe try downloading some of these clips?

http://xbox.ign.com/objects/482/482154.html

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:39 am
by plained
im only mediocre at best but i knoew i like the game well enowgh.

why not let the evolution of your game happen and then see.

dont load up on crap :fucityo:

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:15 am
by [xeno]Julios
plained wrote: why not let the evolution of your game happen and then see.
I'm all for natural evolution of style and technique, but I wouldn't mind a bit of guidance.

plained wrote: dont load up on crap :fucityo:
Ill decidde ayeh me bookcover

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:22 am
by tnf
Jules, just remember this one phrase as you go through the learning process of any sport that requires good technique and whatnot - "Paralysis by analysis." I see this all the time in golf. I don't have the best looking swing, but I can score with it. I know a lot of guys who are trying to learn the game, and spend hours each day analyzing every small aspect of their swing down to the most minute detail.

I can talk to a friend who played on some nationally ranked club team if you want some good personal advice though. I'll ask him about some good thoughts to have in the brain when doing a good jump serve.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:35 am
by [xeno]Julios
good advice tnf.

Believe it or not, I do actually strive toward the "no thought" getting in the zone in sports (and in other things). The less cerebral analysis there is going on, the more fluid and creative your movements and decisions will be (also better reflexes).

That said, I know my own style of learning pretty well, and a simple visual demonstration of a good topspin serve would really help :)

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:39 am
by tnf
Here's a book recommendation - "Zen Golf" Can't remember the author at the moment. It's about golf, but you can apply it to any sport - teaches excellent visualization techniques, how to let go and let your subconscious take control, etc. It's really relevant to golf - one of the most common things you see in golf is that when there is nothing on the line and you are just out playing around you can bomb your drives right down the middle, hit crisp, accurate iron shots, etc. You get into a tournament or competition, suddenly you are keenly aware of all the hazards, trees, and other problems around you. This book trains you to just pick a target and execute without thinking aobut it.

Zen Golf - check it out. Quick read.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 4:41 am
by [xeno]Julios
interesting. I'm quite interested in that sort of thing (peak performance as it relates to sports etc).

From my days of competitive pool and quake, i definitely agree that it's a powerful state of mind to be in.