Quake3World

Hey guys

Well, i have put on weight and mass as i wanted
Didnt wanna get huge so i am now 5'8 and 76.5kg
roughly 12 stone. Now upon me eatin loads to gain,
i have developed a nice gut as it were. I need to shake
this sharpish as its doin my tits in.

Any tips for fairly quick weight loss?

Cheers

I have not exercised lately, I rarely do weights, I weight 130 and am 5' 8", and I think the majority of women out there could beat the fuckle out of me.

High Intensity Interval Training


Good intro:


http://www.musclemedia.com/training/hiit.asp


Here is a study on the issue:


http://etd-submit.etsu.edu/etd/theses/a ... ng0417.pdf


combine that with a good sleep schedule, healthy diet that's not too high in calories, and an overall active lifestyle.

i'm 6'2" and 62kg

i'd still crush you though, short man

Rolling ketogenics.

[quote="Don Carlos"][/quote]

riddla wrote:I'm not an expert, but I've lost 25 lbs in just over 2 mos by eating less and hitting a rowing machine at least 5 nights a week.

yep. "eating less" definitely reeks of amateurism.

you need to be eating better, not necessarily less. if you're eating the same crap that got you ballooned in the first place, but less of it, you'll be bingeing soon, then you'll quit excercising, gain even MORE weight back, and wind up heavier than when you started.

i give you props for the weightloss, but make it a permanent change in health and don't "diet", change your eating habits.

Don Carlos wrote:Hey guys

Well, i have put on weight and mass as i wanted
Didnt wanna get huge so i am now 5'8 and 76.5kg
roughly 12 stone. Now upon me eatin loads to gain,
i have developed a nice gut as it were. I need to shake
this sharpish as its doin my tits in.

Any tips for fairly quick weight loss?

Cheers

Atkins + daily exercise. see the pounds drop off. seriously

seremtan wrote:

Don Carlos wrote:Hey guys

Well, i have put on weight and mass as i wanted
Didnt wanna get huge so i am now 5'8 and 76.5kg
roughly 12 stone. Now upon me eatin loads to gain,
i have developed a nice gut as it were. I need to shake
this sharpish as its doin my tits in.

Any tips for fairly quick weight loss?

Cheers

Atkins + daily exercise. see the pounds drop off. seriously

BUT you will lose muscle too. So its either buff and fat or fit and twiggy, unless you do cardio.

ToxicBug wrote:

seremtan wrote:

Don Carlos wrote:Hey guys

Well, i have put on weight and mass as i wanted
Didnt wanna get huge so i am now 5'8 and 76.5kg
roughly 12 stone. Now upon me eatin loads to gain,
i have developed a nice gut as it were. I need to shake
this sharpish as its doin my tits in.

Any tips for fairly quick weight loss?

Cheers

Atkins + daily exercise. see the pounds drop off. seriously

BUT you will lose muscle too. So its either buff and fat or fit and twiggy, unless you do cardio.

Cardio isnt required, ask Coleman, you dont see him running around skipping rope or doing pilates. Atleast i hope not.

High protein low carbs have LONG been used as a means of cutting fat quick by bodybuilders, way before Atkins gave the diet his own name.

Do your cardio in the morning.

And I don't see why TB says that you will lose muscle UNLESS you do cardio. You lose muscle every time you lose weight - it is inevitable. They key is minimizing muscle loss - keep your protein up so that your body doesn't break as much muscle down.

In reality it is a simple notion - either cut your calories, or burn more calories, or both. Once you do this, you need to make sure the calories you are getting supply you with enough protein.

Sure, if you just want to cut some quick pounds. But that doesn't address sculpting and shaping the body.
If you REALLY want permanent change, you increase your lean muscle mass so your resting metabolic rate goes up.

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:you need to be eating better, not necessarily less. if you're eating the same crap that got you ballooned in the first place, but less of it, you'll be bingeing soon, then you'll quit excercising, gain even MORE weight back, and wind up heavier than when you started.

i give you props for the weightloss, but make it a permanent change in health and don't "diet", change your eating habits.

those are some good points i can agree with.

try and lose it gradually don, that way you'll lose less of your muscle.

eat really really clean.

its much easeir for your body to dismantel basic core foods,

it'll leave your body less tired and with more energy because of the lessend load and hassle.

tnf wrote:High protein low carbs have LONG been used as a means of cutting fat quick by bodybuilders, way before Atkins gave the diet his own name.

Do your cardio in the morning.

And I don't see why TB says that you will lose muscle UNLESS you do cardio. You lose muscle every time you lose weight - it is inevitable. They key is minimizing muscle loss - keep your protein up so that your body doesn't break as much muscle down.

In reality it is a simple notion - either cut your calories, or burn more calories, or both. Once you do this, you need to make sure the calories you are getting supply you with enough protein.

ok, as from Monday, im doin a 5 day test.
If i lose 2 pounds in 5 days i'l carywheel my street

tnf wrote:High protein low carbs have LONG been used as a means of cutting fat quick by bodybuilders, way before Atkins gave the diet his own name.

Do your cardio in the morning.

And I don't see why TB says that you will lose muscle UNLESS you do cardio. You lose muscle every time you lose weight - it is inevitable. They key is minimizing muscle loss - keep your protein up so that your body doesn't break as much muscle down.

In reality it is a simple notion - either cut your calories, or burn more calories, or both. Once you do this, you need to make sure the calories you are getting supply you with enough protein.

But don't you need carbs to support your muscles? At least that's what I read in a bodybuilding article.

Yes, carbs are also important. But if your body is lacking in necessary amino acids, its going to break down muscle to get them...

Again, you are going to lose some muscle ANYTIME you lean out, regardless of your diet.

Some amino acids will be converted to glucose if carbs are needed, so protein can provide the carb support as well...

But amino acid metabolism is a bit complicated to get into here. Take a look at the glucose-alanine cycle to see what I mean...

actually here -



So, the answer to your question is yes, but not how you think...

or something to that effect.

riddla wrote:

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:you need to be eating better, not necessarily less. if you're eating the same crap that got you ballooned in the first place, but less of it, you'll be bingeing soon, then you'll quit excercising, gain even MORE weight back, and wind up heavier than when you started.

i give you props for the weightloss, but make it a permanent change in health and don't "diet", change your eating habits.

good assumptions but no cookie for you. I've made drastic changes in diet, and going to a high-protein vegetarian diet is probably the single most helpful factor actually.

all you posted was that you were eating less. what other assumption could be made? none.

seremtan wrote:

Don Carlos wrote:Hey guys

Well, i have put on weight and mass as i wanted
Didnt wanna get huge so i am now 5'8 and 76.5kg
roughly 12 stone. Now upon me eatin loads to gain,
i have developed a nice gut as it were. I need to shake
this sharpish as its doin my tits in.

Any tips for fairly quick weight loss?

Cheers

Atkins + daily exercise. see the pounds drop off. seriously

:lol: :lol:

short term goal, then back to being fat.

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:you need to be eating better, not necessarily less. if you're eating the same crap that got you ballooned in the first place, but less of it, you'll be bingeing soon, then you'll quit excercising, gain even MORE weight back, and wind up heavier than when you started.

i give you props for the weightloss, but make it a permanent change in health and don't "diet", change your eating habits.

You need to go on a hypocaloric diet if you want to lose weight.

which means eating less calories.

That's pretty fundamental from my understanding.

tnf wrote:Yes, carbs are also important. But if your body is lacking in necessary amino acids, its going to break down muscle to get them...

Again, you are going to lose some muscle ANYTIME you lean out, regardless of your diet.

Some amino acids will be converted to glucose if carbs are needed, so protein can provide the carb support as well...

But amino acid metabolism is a bit complicated to get into here. Take a look at the glucose-alanine cycle to see what I mean...

actually here -



So, the answer to your question is yes, but not how you think...

or something to that effect.

If only I had an even slightest idea of what that diagram means.

laff at thread :lol:

lol look at all the fatties!!

[xeno]Julios wrote:

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:you need to be eating better, not necessarily less. if you're eating the same crap that got you ballooned in the first place, but less of it, you'll be bingeing soon, then you'll quit excercising, gain even MORE weight back, and wind up heavier than when you started.

i give you props for the weightloss, but make it a permanent change in health and don't "diet", change your eating habits.

You need to go on a hypocaloric diet if you want to lose weight.

which means eating less calories.

That's pretty fundamental from my understanding.

hypocaloric diets are great for getting rid of pounds in a short term, but i couldn't see being on a hypocaloric diet for the rest of my days.