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Amazing:
http://www.kctv.com/global/story.asp?s= ... =Printable

Not so amazing:
"The procedure that has allowed this change is not done on humans in the U.S."

I wonder, if wonderful applications of stem-cell research keep happening like this, will the hardcore rightists ever change their mind about the practice?

Yeah, its amazing what CAN be done, but even more amazing what we COULD do in the future.

fucking amazing

there has been a nice article about stemcell and embryo cells in the national geographic last month.

saturn wrote:there has been a nice article about stemcell and embryo cells in the national geographic last month.

Yes. Adult stem cells seem to be the research route that would would eliminate the politics in this issue.

Stem cells are evil!!!!

i've done research with with stem cells! (not human, but alas)

R00k wrote:Amazing:
http://www.kctv.com/global/story.asp?s= ... =Printable

Not so amazing:
"The procedure that has allowed this change is not done on humans in the U.S."

I wonder, if wonderful applications of stem-cell research keep happening like this, will the hardcore rightists ever change their mind about the practice?

We'll probably have to wait until one of the influential hard right loses the ability to walk to find that out.

Think like Christopher Reeve's sudden interest in paralysis research.

Umm, I'll believe it when I see the MRI. That guy sounds like he's had a big dose of placebo effect.

Regaining nerve sensitivity can be produced by a placebo?

tnf wrote:Stem cells are evil!!!!

yet you developed from one :icon29:

R00k wrote:Regaining nerve sensitivity can be produced by a placebo?

Placebo can do some amazing things...

So can simple body healing

So can this guy if you give him a "grant"

Geebs wrote:Umm, I'll believe it when I see the MRI. That guy sounds like he's had a big dose of placebo effect.

I don't think I've ever heard of ANY placebo making a person who had no feelings from his chest down able to walk and feel again. In fact I'd go as far as saying it's physicaly impossible to do so if you have a spinal injury that severe

I hope that one day we'll find that eating babies gives you eternal youth.

Kracus wrote:

Geebs wrote:Umm, I'll believe it when I see the MRI. That guy sounds like he's had a big dose of placebo effect.

I don't think I've ever heard of ANY placebo making a person who had no feelings from his chest down able to walk and feel again. In fact I'd go as far as saying it's physicaly impossible to do so if you have a spinal injury that severe

I'm not saying it didn't happen...but I think you should always be careful about using absolutes when describing nature and the human body. Also, don't forget - Geebs has a piece of paper that states that he is very clever. Whether you like it or not, that means that his opinion carries some weight when it comes to matters of medicine.

SplishSplash wrote:I hope that one day we'll find that eating babies gives you eternal youth.

I think if scientists invented a way to suck the life out of the living to rejuvenate people there would be rich people scooping up poor third world people to keep their rich asses alive and receiving stock options, like Morlocks.

tnf wrote:Stem cells are evil!!!!

riddla wrote:maybe he just ate one too many bowls of wheaties

Canidae wrote:

SplishSplash wrote:I hope that one day we'll find that eating babies gives you eternal youth.

I think if scientists invented a way to suck the life out of the living to rejuvenate people there would be rich people scooping up poor third world people to keep their rich asses alive and receiving stock options, like Morlocks.

Hey I'd do it.

Kracus wrote:

Geebs wrote:Umm, I'll believe it when I see the MRI. That guy sounds like he's had a big dose of placebo effect.

I don't think I've ever heard of ANY placebo making a person who had no feelings from his chest down able to walk and feel again. In fact I'd go as far as saying it's physicaly impossible to do so if you have a spinal injury that severe

There's no way of fully assessing the severity of his spinal injury from the article. But we're expected to believe that an injection of stem cells has sorted out his motor, sensory and autonomic nervous systems all in one go? Hmm. Remember when Christopher Reeve was supposed to have felt some sensation in one finger, and then extrapolated that he was going to walk again? That's what I'm talking about

R00k wrote:I wonder, if wonderful applications of stem-cell research keep happening like this, will the hardcore rightists ever change their mind about the practice?

Only if we cripple them, obviously.

BTW, if you're in a particularly nasty frame of mind, you can make a spinal patient "walk" by stimulating the soles of the feet. Walking on a treadmill means nothing.

With electro shock or something?