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Hey so uhh, Longhorn...

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:34 pm
by rep
I was just going over some of the stuff from WinHEC 2005 and I watched the videos of the Virtual Folder feature on winsupersite.com, and I was thinking: What's the point of regular folders anymore?

Here I am organizing all my music, spending all this time making sure it's all in the right place and easy to find, and in 16 months we'll be able to do it with a single click...

http://www.winsupersite.com/files/winhe ... org_02.wmv
http://www.winsupersite.com/files/winhe ... org_03.wmv

Also, that Aero interface... I knew it was transparent but I didn't know that everything behind the transparencies (Even video overlays, openGL, etc.) are blurred, on purpose, so you can see through the window interface, but not be confused with overlapping characters... You'll know what's on top because it's in focus. Cool.

Longhorn Media Player is purdy too.

Image

Sweet emotion, huh?

Edit: They should remove "WINDOWS" from all their applications like, "WINDOWS Media Player," "WINDOWS Movie Maker," and so on. KISS.

Edit 2: APPARENTLY through the use of DX10 and Avalon if someone has a webcam you could display real 'reflections' in the interface... :icon28: :icon31: :icon31: :icon31:

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:38 pm
by zeeko
yep...

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 11:43 pm
by R00k
No relational-db-like file system.

That was the main reason I was looking forward to it.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:06 am
by bitWISE
Virtual Folders? If you just organize your shit properly you wouldn't need virtual folders...

Re: Hey so uhh, Longhorn...

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:10 am
by 4g3nt_Smith
rep wrote:I was just going over some of the stuff from WinHEC 2005 and I watched the videos of the Virtual Folder feature on winsupersite.com, and I was thinking: What's the point of regular folders anymore?

Here I am organizing all my music, spending all this time making sure it's all in the right place and easy to find, and in 16 months we'll be able to do it with a single click...

http://www.winsupersite.com/files/winhe ... org_02.wmv
http://www.winsupersite.com/files/winhe ... org_03.wmv

Also, that Aero interface... I knew it was transparent but I didn't know that everything behind the transparencies (Even video overlays, openGL, etc.) are blurred, on purpose, so you can see through the window interface, but not be confused with overlapping characters... You'll know what's on top because it's in focus. Cool.

Longhorn Media Player is purdy too.

Image

Sweet emotion, huh?

Edit: They should remove "WINDOWS" from all their applications like, "WINDOWS Media Player," "WINDOWS Movie Maker," and so on. KISS.

Edit 2: APPARENTLY through the use of DX10 and Avalon if someone has a webcam you could display real 'reflections' in the interface... :icon28: :icon31: :icon31: :icon31:
Not to come off as a troll, but Finder in OS X now has smart folders, which will contain an shortcut (symbolic alias or something for anyone familiar with Linux/Unix) inside to every file with a certain characteristic (want a folder with every song on a connected drive/disk lasting 3:34? Done. Pics with a res of 1600x1200? Done.) OS X also has full transparency support, and many third party themes make use of it, although not as much as Longhorn, which looks like a massive gimmick to the point of inhibiting use. Also, iChat AV has support for 4-person webcam chats, and they have the real-time GUI reflection as well while doing it.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:10 am
by sliver
How is it worth going to a demonstration like that one if you have to put up with hours of that nasal-voiced whinging faggot talking at you like you're a six-year-old? Why would anyone ever show up?

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:10 am
by Bdw3
But then you'd be using a Mac... :(

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:14 am
by 4g3nt_Smith
Bdw3 wrote:But then you'd be using a Mac... :(
:paranoid: :dork:

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:18 am
by Bdw3
:) *wub*

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:21 am
by 4g3nt_Smith
:shrug: :wub:

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:06 am
by Canis
Welcome to OS X 10.4....

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 1:08 am
by GONNAFISTYA
Fuckin nerds.

And rep....may you shit glass for eternity for linking to two distictively boring vids.

Cunt.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:24 am
by Psyche911
I have iTunes set to automatically sort my mp3s. As long as my ID3 tags are right, it's all sorted absolutely perfectly. :)

iTunes Music > Arist Name > Album Name > Song Name with Track #

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:53 am
by Dave
Oh, I wanted to mention Spotlight and full-text/metadata searches.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:24 am
by Kills On Site
I'll tell ya, the one trick that Windows XP and Longhorn can do for me that OSX cannot is install on my computers.......

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:25 am
by rep
bitWISE wrote:Virtual Folders? If you just organize your shit properly you wouldn't need virtual folders...
...

Why even bother any more?

Re: Hey so uhh, Longhorn...

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:33 am
by rep
4g3nt_Smith wrote:Also, iChat AV has support for 4-person webcam chats, and they have the real-time GUI reflection as well while doing it.
You don't understand... iChat AV has a little flipped 'reflection' below the video. I'm talking about pointless goofy reflections that just give the thing a huge wow factor. Here's an example:

Look at the Media Player. It's like a glass sphere. Since the entire GUI is tied into DirectX 3D effects now, it could grab video from the camera, wrap it around that sphere, drop the opacity, give it some shader effects to make the video warp and shimmer, and flip the image properly so it's like a reflection.

Why? Because people will have AMD Athlon64x2 5GHz CPUs just for Word, Solitaire, and Outlook. That's why.

If it all worked nicely wouldn't you let it run?

Edit: Not saying Microsoft is going to do this but anyone with Avalon knowledge could pull it off. From what I've seen, the MSDN nerds get these applications running in the same short time that it takes to plop out a Konfabulator app.

Re: Hey so uhh, Longhorn...

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:08 am
by Geebs
rep wrote:
4g3nt_Smith wrote:Also, iChat AV has support for 4-person webcam chats, and they have the real-time GUI reflection as well while doing it.
You don't understand... iChat AV has a little flipped 'reflection' below the video. I'm talking about pointless goofy reflections that just give the thing a huge wow factor. Here's an example:

Look at the Media Player. It's like a glass sphere. Since the entire GUI is tied into DirectX 3D effects now, it could grab video from the camera, wrap it around that sphere, drop the opacity, give it some shader effects to make the video warp and shimmer, and flip the image properly so it's like a reflection.

Why? Because people will have AMD Athlon64x2 5GHz CPUs just for Word, Solitaire, and Outlook. That's why.

If it all worked nicely wouldn't you let it run?

Edit: Not saying Microsoft is going to do this but anyone with Avalon knowledge could pull it off. From what I've seen, the MSDN nerds get these applications running in the same short time that it takes to plop out a Konfabulator app.
This from the nerd who was worried about iTunes' memory usage.

bloat bloat BLOAT

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:53 am
by Transient
First thing I'll do when I upgrade my OS is change it to a Classic Theme, just like I did with XP.

I'd rather organize things in folders all nice and neat anyway. :shrug:

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 9:54 am
by MKJ
what a bunch of bloat.

Re: Hey so uhh, Longhorn...

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 3:56 pm
by Cool Blue
rep wrote:I was just going over some of the stuff from WinHEC 2005 and I watched the videos of the Virtual Folder feature on winsupersite.com, and I was thinking: What's the point of regular folders anymore?

Here I am organizing all my music, spending all this time making sure it's all in the right place and easy to find, and in 16 months we'll be able to do it with a single click...

http://www.winsupersite.com/files/winhe ... org_02.wmv
http://www.winsupersite.com/files/winhe ... org_03.wmv
As if it wasn't bad enough that users can't keep track of where they store a simple word doc, you think having files all over hell is going to make life easier? Laff, maybe until the first time they need to switch to a new system or restore some lost data.

Managing your files is like managing your financies, it sucks but it's necessary to prevent loss. Like cleaning your house.


IMO lazy people can fuck off. ->

Re: Hey so uhh, Longhorn...

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:07 pm
by rep
Cool Blue wrote:
rep wrote:I was just going over some of the stuff from WinHEC 2005 and I watched the videos of the Virtual Folder feature on winsupersite.com, and I was thinking: What's the point of regular folders anymore?

Here I am organizing all my music, spending all this time making sure it's all in the right place and easy to find, and in 16 months we'll be able to do it with a single click...

http://www.winsupersite.com/files/winhe ... org_02.wmv
http://www.winsupersite.com/files/winhe ... org_03.wmv
As if it wasn't bad enough that users can't keep track of where they store a simple word doc, you think having files all over hell is going to make life easier? Laff, maybe until the first time they need to switch to a new system or restore some lost data.

Managing your files is like managing your financies, it sucks but it's necessary to prevent loss. Like cleaning your house.


IMO lazy people can fuck off. ->
Eh... If you think about it, you can do this:

Partition 1: Exclusive to Longhorn
Partition 2: Files.

And have no folders at all on the second partition, just files. No worries.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:09 pm
by dzjepp
First thing I'm gonna do after warezing Longhorn is disable the themes service and all that other bs, I'm gonna make it look like Win98, just like I have XP Pro running now.

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:17 pm
by Cool Blue
:lol:

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 5:30 pm
by Don Carlos
GONNAFISTYA wrote:
And rep....may you shit glass for eternity for linking to two distictively boring vids.

Cunt.
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