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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:18 am
by netrex
You should try the new Opera. It has loads of stuff, but if you don't want them it won't load, so won't take forever to start etc.. That's from a friend of mine who works there though, haven't installed it yet my self ;) I'll stick to Firefox.

You can try some of the stuff mentioned here to speed up FF though. Might work well, not sure.

http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000803024910/

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:58 am
by Iccy (temp)
Sounds like video driver issues, i know what your talking about.

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:02 am
by +JuggerNaut+
sounds like you leave FF open with multiple tabs all day. here are two things you can try:

1) the Session Saver extension

2) step away from the pc once in a blue moon.

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:08 am
by phantasmagoria
Ironically, I switched from Maxthon (modified IE) to firefox because I needed a leecher plugin (I got downTHEMall in the end, it worked a treat) to download all the pictures from this site:

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/

and I've decided to stick with it, seems simple and efficient enough, and less clunky than IE/Maxthon.

The adblock is a bit shit though, are there better ones?

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:13 am
by Deathshroud
I really can't see why you would think FF to be so shitty. Really, if you look hard enough, you can make it run just fine on any system. I shall provide you some linkage...

Stipe's Build: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=215104

Also, if you know how, try putting this in your user.js file...

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// Last value in milliseconds (default is 250)
user_pref("nglayout.initialpaint.delay", 200);

// Enable pipelining:
user_pref("network.http.pipelining", true);
user_pref("network.http.proxy.pipelining", true);
user_pref("network.http.pipelining.maxrequests", 8);

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:22 am
by dzjepp
phantasmagoria wrote:Ironically, I switched from Maxthon (modified IE) to firefox because I needed a leecher plugin (I got downTHEMall in the end, it worked a treat) to download all the pictures from this site:

http://www.aeronautics.ru/archive/

and I've decided to stick with it, seems simple and efficient enough, and less clunky than IE/Maxthon.

The adblock is a bit shit though, are there better ones?
Say what? Maxthon's AdHunter pwnz FF's AdBlock... it has more features.

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:25 am
by phantasmagoria
reread, i've gone from Maxthon to FF, I'm wondering if there's a similar adblocker to the one in Maxthon, due to Adblock being a bit shit ;)

edit: another question, which highlighting white text on a black page (i have my select colour set to black in windows) it's impossible to see what you're selecting; is there a plugin/extension to make the selection tool simply invert the colours of the background/text or work out if the background is dark or light and change the selection colour accordingly like IE?

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:28 am
by Auburndale
Download ChromEdit extension to easily edit the FireFox user files. And here's an another extension (screenshot) to easily change the network settings. I just gave the MSN search toolbar a try, found it to be a bit clunky and bloated so I uninstalled it. Never experienced your problems even on a 500MHz machine, perhaps you should try re-installing FireFox.

List of my FF extensions

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*AdBlock
View Cookies
*Tweak Network Settings
*Tab X
*undoclosetab
Gmail Notifier
DictionarySearch
Disable Targets for Downloads
miniT
*ChromEdit
ieview
FLST
*All-In-One Gestures
*Tabbrowser Preferences
FlashBlock
FoxyTunes
Linky
*Download Statusbar
Text Link
FastDic
GooglePreview
Bandwidth Tester
Image Zoom
Greasemonkey
About Site
ColorZilla
Scrapbook
xMirror
*ForecastFox
Too lazy to make them linkable, but this site contains some of them http://www.wilshireone.com/article/40/f ... aves-redux

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:32 am
by +JuggerNaut+
Auburndale wrote:Download ChromEdit extension to easily edit the FireFox user files. And here's an antoehr to easily change the network settings.
your link is goofed. also, what does modifcations of your network settings have to do with the orignal post?

*ah, you editing bastard*

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:41 am
by Duhard
...is Opera any good or is it a waste of my time?

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:45 am
by Freakaloin
waster of time...

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:51 am
by Auburndale
If you’re looking into AdBlock, do also check out: http://www.geocities.com/pierceive/adblock/ . It contains comprehensive and regularly updated packages of rules that do a really good job of killing those ads and saves you from the hassle of rolling your own. Simply import the latest filterset into AdBlock and away you go.

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:54 am
by eepberries
I never really liked Firefox itself much. I used Mozilla 1.4 instead. It's solid as fuck

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:15 am
by [xeno]Julios
I've been using opera for a couple years now or so, and have found it to be an excellent and speedy browser.

The functionality of opera goes way beyond simple tabbed browsing. There are so many subtle features that make life more efficient - i can't even begin to list them all.

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:51 pm
by SplishSplash
There are memory optimizations you can apply to about:config

I have them, but don't remember them.

One of them is that FF gives up all unused memory when you minimize it. That usually reduces FF's mem footprint to like 7-8 MB.
So whenever it gets really slow, I just minimize, maximize and everything is peachy.

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:24 pm
by Transient
Splish, if you could find out and possibly provide a link for how I can do that, it would be cool. :up:

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 2:50 pm
by Dek
Deathshroud wrote: Really, if you look hard enough, you can make it run just fine on any system.

Think that's the point.. You shouldn't have to look hard to make it run fine.

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:11 pm
by Foo
Both Opera and Firefox run absolutely fine here.

My only thought is there might be a keylogger on the system. Aside from that, I don't know. Enjoy your Internet Explorer...

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:16 pm
by rep
[xeno]Julios wrote:I've been using opera for a couple years now or so, and have found it to be an excellent and speedy browser.

The functionality of opera goes way beyond simple tabbed browsing. There are so many subtle features that make life more efficient - i can't even begin to list them all.
The best part about all the extra features available to you in Opera 8 is that they don't make it feel like bloatware. This software is the most fully functional browser, and nothing gets in the way. While there are great services like Mail, Chat (IRC), Voice, and Notes just to name a few, they don't block your familiar Internet experience, and certainly don't change the performance, as you're getting the fastest browser available.

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:31 pm
by Grudge
lol, paying money to browse the internets

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 4:32 pm
by Canis
Grudge wrote:lol, paying money to browse the internets
I'd pay money to browse more than one internet...

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:02 pm
by Transient
I wouldn't. 1 is more than enough for me.

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:08 pm
by rep
Grudge wrote:lol, paying money to browse the internets
"Man, I bought this car but I'm too cheap to buy the gas. I'll just push it up hill."

Opera pays for itself because you get more done. It's faster, it's better, it's like upgrading your productivity and one license lasts a very very long time. Releases aren't done in haste, although there are many incremental upgrades that add more functionality.

On April 19th, Opera 8 was released. Since then, there has been one upgrade, 8.01 which was put online two months later.

Let's put that into perspective... January 28th 2003, Opera 7.00 was released. The prices were slightly different back then, but let's say you bought it at the price of Opera 8, $39, that's less than a dime a day. If you get minimum wage, what is that like $6 now? That's 30 seconds of work a day to pay for Opera if you made minimum wage, so in the time between when you punch in and you actually start working, you paid for it.

Plus it's not like it stops working once the new version comes out, but since major versions are definitely worth the upgrade, you can grab those for $15.

Also consider since Firefox is becoming the new Internet Explorer, that's where the hackers will go, eventually. It will be harder for them to find areas to exploit, but eventually will become common as more commoners make the switch. Any nerds who are big on open source and all that crap, get ready to be mad. I expect Firefox to break away from open source sometime in the next few years and go fully corporate once they've used you and drained you of all your free advertisement.

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:22 pm
by [xeno]Julios
opera's free.

You get used to the ads very fast.

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:44 pm
by Geebs
I would actually try Opera if the screenshots of the Mac version weren't so fucking ugly that they erased my retinas, making it impossible to click the download link.