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I just got back to my place (Yeah, it's 8:18AM here. What an amazing night.) from sixty miles south at a friend's house. She is involved in a lot of wild alternative projects, and one of them deals with a return to hunter/gatherer lifestyle in small communities (not necessarily family based, but definitely family friendly) as humanity should probably be, instead of monkeys in the concrete jungles.

Four of the women in one of these groups (Which I won't name because I'm not sure if selling or making human cheese is legal, because it's technically cannibalism, although it's voluntary and they need milked anyway.) Back to what I was saying, four of these women are as I understand just had children withing the last three years. One of the women opted to feed her baby a mix of rice milk and breast milk because of some problem related to her baby. Her milk was fine, the baby was just having problem with it. Anyway she bottled it up and froze it, and somewhere or another the nutty idea of making cheese came up. They did research, and although I didn't think it was possible to turn human milk into cheese because it's not fatty like other animal's milks (they augmented the milk with artificial plant based oils I think) and started making the stuff. They only could produce a very small amount of it, because either their babies were needing it or they weren't lactating... Plus it takes a lot to make the cheese.

I don't eat cheese because in most cheeses there are enzymes from slaughtered animals added in the process of making the cheese, and plus I can't imagine anything more unnatural than drinking breastmilk from another species... We weren't designed that way, so why is it a necessity for children to drink the stuff, U$DA? But, this stuff was (besides the obvious human ingredient, breastmilk) totally plant based. The women are also vegan (One was lacto-vegetarian during pregnancy to gain weight.)

Long story short, I had a few inch-sized cubes of the stuff, and it was surprisingly good.

So, how was your parents' basements all weekend, nerds?

aahh nature :lol:

blech

mmm

lol, I thought you were gonna tell us that you had a headcheese nibble in the gaybar this weekend.

haha awesome

Interesting.

so how was the taste

you say you don't eat cheese, but have you eaten enough cheese in the past to make a comparison that others might gain some insight from

grim

rgoer wrote:so how was the taste

you say you don't eat cheese, but have you eaten enough cheese in the past to make a comparison that others might gain some insight from

It's pretty close to flavorless, to be honest. If I had to compare it to anything, perhaps farmer's cheese would be close. It wasn't bad.

Edit: On a similar note, I'd never eat it but I always wanted to scramble some of--- nevermind. I bet it'd work, though.

Hey rep...why would they slaughter a milk cow? If the cow was dead it would no longer make milk...so therefore, the milk we drink and eat comes from living cows that have not been slaughtered.

rep wrote:We weren't designed that way, so why is it a necessity for children to drink the stuff, U$DA?

rep wrote: The women are also vegan (One was lacto-vegetarian during pregnancy to gain weight.)

You answered your own question, dipshit. On another note, hundreds of thousands of children worldwide are likely to have their eyesight saved by genetically-engineered rice which produces the vitamin A lacking in their essentially vegan diet.

rep wrote:But, this stuff was (besides the obvious human ingredient, breastmilk) totally plant based.

Humans are omnivores; primates in general are pretty cannibalistic. How is being vegan "natural"?

Actualy i have enver been able to swallow the " natural " vegan diet.


Explain a few things to me and ill be convinced.


Why do we have canine teeth designed to rip meat. No other plant eating species has these meat shreaders, you cant just deny they exist.

Secondly there is no compeltely natural all vegitarian diet that gives you all the nutirents your body needs, no one combonation.

Lastly, have you ever been around true vegans, i mean the 100% all naturals that dont enhance their diet with vitamins, pure vegans, they are sickly and weak, they are unhealthy.


I applaud the efforts of anyone that choses to not eat meat, i moraly dont agree with eating meat. But if you look at our true nature and take off the warm and fuzzies and look at hard cold facts, we simply are not a purely plant eating species. Well, atleast not anymore, but thats a different topic.


If you can rebutle this well enough you will peak my interest, till then this is just another well intentioned, but unrealistic topic.

Holy god...hippies! :lol:

if i knew a cunt like you id be selling you my nob cheese n all

If two lactating women where stuck in say the woods or the desert, and they took turns breast feeding one another, would they extend the time they could live without food and water?

Geebs wrote:

rep wrote:We weren't designed that way, so why is it a necessity for children to drink the stuff, U$DA?

rep wrote: The women are also vegan (One was lacto-vegetarian during pregnancy to gain weight.)

You answered your own question, dipshit. On another note, hundreds of thousands of children worldwide are likely to have their eyesight saved by genetically-engineered rice which produces the vitamin A lacking in their essentially vegan diet.

rep wrote:But, this stuff was (besides the obvious human ingredient, breastmilk) totally plant based.

Humans are omnivores; primates in general are pretty cannibalistic. How is being vegan "natural"?

No shit. People love to ignore the fact that thousands and thousands of generations of evolution gave us the necessary structures and enzymes for eating meat.

Vegan diets are about as natural as xylitol and sucralose sweeteners.

ffs, how'd i miss this thread? interesting indeed.

bitWISE wrote:Hey rep...why would they slaughter a milk cow? If the cow was dead it would no longer make milk...so therefore, the milk we drink and eat comes from living cows that have not been slaughtered.

Some things you need to know... Most cheeses contain rennet, the lining membrane of a cow's stomach. This is used to coagulate and curdle the cheese. This is obtained by killing the animal. They don't kill cows just for that, every cow slaughtered is used for multiple products (It is possible to eat a burger, put some hair gel on, wash your hands, brush your teeth, and eat a green manzanilla olive all from the same cow, because they contain cow ingredients.) Anyway, even if the cheese didn't have any other animal products besides the milk, it's still bad because once dairy cows don't live up (literally) to their expectations, they're (*while perfectly healthy*) sent to a slaughter house, and then a rendering plant. Rendering plants are places where farm and domesticated euthanized animals, courtesy of the pound (Yes, fluffy and sparky) are processed into your foods, hair gels, bone chars used to 'purify' salts and sugars, etc.

Plus dairy cows live a pretty shitty life, literally. They're not in such bad conditions as chickens and turkeys, but it's all like the Matrix, understand?

Geebs wrote:Humans are omnivores; primates in general are pretty cannibalistic. How is being vegan "natural"?

That's not entirely true. First off, what humans do by raising animals specifically for slaughter is not natural. Second, while (I'm surprised someone mentioned it) we have enzymes in our stomachs necessary for breaking down complex materials such as flesh, there is no solid proof that humans at any time were anything but herbivores except when they deviated by choice. Nomadic men moving north to Europe made it a necessity for more rugged food to be consumed, including bark and roots. Our teeth are first off, not strong enough to rip through un-treated meat, secondly, aren't big or sharp enough. They're meant for priming hard vegetables (incisors and canines) and then breaking down what's left (molars).

Iccy (temp) wrote: there is no compeltely natural all vegitarian diet that gives you all the nutirents your body needs, no one combonation.

Then I must be a zombie. I eat literally raw vegetables and fruits. Rarely I sprinkle salt (natural), and sometimes I eat cereal with rice milk, but other than that, I'm good.

For drinks, it's water all the way except when I'm in a pinch and buy a Pepsi. Did you know Pepsi used to have pepsin (a long long time ago) which was from dead pigs? GLUG GLUG GLUG, who'd ever think you could drink a pig?

Pooinyourmouth_needmerge wrote:If two lactating women where stuck in say the woods or the desert, and they took turns breast feeding one another, would they extend the time they could live without food and water?

That's easy. Definitely not, but they'd extend something else.

rep wrote:

Geebs wrote:Humans are omnivores; primates in general are pretty cannibalistic. How is being vegan "natural"?

That's not entirely true. First off, what humans do by raising animals specifically for slaughter is not natural. Second, while (I'm surprised someone mentioned it) we have enzymes in our stomachs necessary for breaking down complex materials such as flesh, there is no solid proof that humans at any time were anything but herbivores except when they deviated by choice. Nomadic men moving north to Europe made it a necessity for more rugged food to be consumed, including bark and roots. Our teeth are first off, not strong enough to rip through un-treated meat, secondly, aren't big or sharp enough. They're meant for priming hard vegetables (incisors and canines) and then breaking down what's left (molars).

So primitive nomadic men couldn't bite into a chicken until it'd been "treated", but they were gnawing through the forests like beavers? Riiiiiight......

Similarly, I take it that the fact that Vultures can't hunt and bring down an antelope means that they're vegetarians, right?

Agriculture is natural because humans do it. We evolved a brain, then we used it. It's as natural as fish swimming, birds flying and bears shitting in the woods.

rep wrote:

Iccy (temp) wrote: there is no compeltely natural all vegitarian diet that gives you all the nutirents your body needs, no one combonation.

Then I must be a zombie. I eat literally raw vegetables and fruits. Rarely I sprinkle salt (natural), and sometimes I eat cereal with rice milk, but other than that, I'm good.

How long have you been doing this? Do you notice your more irritable then you used to be? Do you suffer from cases of fatigue. ( remember being tired and fatigue are different ).


This is scientific fact rep, your not getting the vitamins and minerals, your body is lacking the nutrients that evolution has predetirmined for it like Iron and Calcium and Vitamin b-12. Your soil is not apt enough to grow proper plants, to put it in another way.

See rep, your runing around and trying to eat the perfect way, which is comendable, but i think your taking it to the extreme and moving to into a unhealthy pattern. Kinda like how a hypocondract starts off just trying to be sure he is ok, but then goes overboard into a obsessive behavior.

I cant deny that you can put together a fairly healthy vegan diet and alone with vitamin pills you can supliment the nutrients you need, you can mix and match and extract this and blend it with that, but sit back for a second and look what your doing. Your doing all this work, all this dancing to get the nutrients that are readily available in meats. Not to mention that a proven method of aquiring a true source of b-12 has not been found, this is a vitamin thats needed in brain development. There have been studies that show that a true vegan diet, which is weak or lacks b-12 will cause a mother to have a child with brain abnomalities such as lack of growth, which were corrected when b-12 was introduced to the diet.

A true healthy diet is a BALANCE of meant and vegitables, consumed in moderation and coupled with a moderate amount of exersice you have a recipe for feeling good, being healthy and being happy. Pretty much the same thing we been doing and knew for 50+ years my friend.


I find in life most things work off balance, that moving from one extreme to the other breeds intolerance, unhealthy behaviors and simply causes you to be blind to the facts that oppose your ideas. Its important to remain open and again ... balanced.


We are meat eaters, our bodies are built for it and our psyche is built for it, dont fight who you are, understand it and accept it. Its ok to not want to kill to eat, just have respect for it and dont waste what you have taken. After all, when you kill a plant and eat it, your killing life also, are you not?

I can't beleive you guys are talking about vegetarians vs omnivores in a topic labeled I just ate human cheese. Jesus fucking chrsit what the fuck is wrong with you people that's fucking disgusting. Thankfully it's rep we're talking about so it's also probably not true. Who the fuck would want to brag about eating human cheese anyway?

So it's your impression that I'm bragging? You are very impressionable, Kracus. Here's my impression of you:... Sorry, I can't do it. My gluteus maximii are so tight that I can't make the cheeks talk by pulling them apart.

Instead, go eat yourself.

That's not even remotely funny yet looks like it took awhile. Wait I was wrong it is kinda funny.

Anyway yeah rep, I don't see why anyone would ever want to eat human cheese please indulge me with your insight on this subject.