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Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:47 am
by Transient
https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/29/spacex-mars-bfr/
[youtube]S5V7R_se1Xc[/youtube]
Edit: So Musk is already partway into developing a reusable rocket that can get to any planet in the solar system, and land 150 tons on Mars. It can even get to the moon and back to Earth without needing to refuel in orbit or on the moon itself. He plans to send 2 cargo BFRs to Mars in 2022 and then 2 more cargo BFRs and two 40-passenger crew BFRs to Mars in 2024, for a total of 80 people and 6 giant fucking rockets sitting on Mars in 7 years.
It will be funded partially by using BFRs to launch giant satellites into orbit and supply the ISS (it's so big it looks like a 2nd space station when docked to it). Musk said that he can actually use the BFRs to transport passengers anywhere on Earth in about half an hour, so there's another potential way to fund a mission to Mars.

Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:52 am
by Whiskey 7
Thanks.. Watching...
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:12 am
by Whiskey 7
BFR = 150 tons (or is that
tonnes) to Earth orbit

Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:45 am
by TLMUFDVR
Wow

Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:27 pm
by xer0s
So fucking cool...
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:22 pm
by seremtan
again, all the best to SpaceX, but i seriously doubt they can land 300 tons of anything on Mars in 5 years using a rocket that's still in the design stage, as much as i'd like to believe otherwise
on a related note, the deployment of the JWST has been put back another year
space is hard work, guys
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:23 pm
by Doombrain
even if they could, i doubt the humans would cope with a one way ticket.
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 1:31 pm
by xer0s
seremtan wrote:
on a related note, the deployment of the JWST has been put back another year
Damn, I hadn’t heard that...

Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:46 pm
by Eraser
seremtan wrote:on a related note, the deployment of the JWST has been put back another year

They want to get the mirrors really
really right this time?
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 4:08 pm
by losCHUNK
seremtan wrote:
on a related note, the deployment of the JWST has been put back another year
space is hard work, guys
Sucks ass
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:12 pm
by Transient
Doombrain wrote:even if they could, i doubt the humans would cope with a one way ticket.
It's not one way.
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:38 pm
by Doombrain
for them it is. there's no way they can take enough to bring them back, no way.
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 5:54 pm
by seremtan
xer0s wrote:seremtan wrote:
on a related note, the deployment of the JWST has been put back another year
Damn, I hadn’t heard that...

https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/29/jam ... 19-launch/
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:35 pm
by Transient
Doombrain wrote:for them it is. there's no way they can take enough to bring them back, no way.
600 tons of supplies and refueling capabilities, but you don't think they can get back?
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:54 pm
by Transient
Lockheed Martin is getting in on the action, too:
[youtube]vLpZUMfIJX0[/youtube]
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:06 pm
by scared?
BFD...
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:03 pm
by xer0s
Transient wrote:Doombrain wrote:for them it is. there's no way they can take enough to bring them back, no way.
600 tons of supplies and refueling capabilities, but you don't think they can get back?
The whole idea of the BFRs is the reusability. They’ll be able to come back. Maybe not right away. But once they ship enough fuel, no problem...
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:37 pm
by Transient
They can make the fuel on Mars.
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 4:20 am
by Whiskey 7
Transient wrote:Lockheed Martin is getting in on the action, too:
[youtube]video[/youtube]
A really good presentation.
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 6:25 am
by Transient
I didn't think so. They want to put people on Mars, but they can't spring for some decent videography or professional actors.
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:15 am
by Whiskey 7
I took it as general information and a dirt cheap production. Of course they will do better and present a professional version I am sure.
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:29 am
by losCHUNK
Transient wrote:Doombrain wrote:for them it is. there's no way they can take enough to bring them back, no way.
600 tons of supplies and refueling capabilities, but you don't think they can get back?
We could've done it after landing on the moon but the same problem applies then as it does today in that it will cost buckets of money with very little return.
You need to factor in the vehicle n all and the amount of supplies it'll need just for the journey. I mean the Lunar module alone cost 20+ billion when adjusted for inflation and the total value of SpaceX is valued at 12.
Best of luck to them, but all this making your own fuel on Mars, having regular shipments n stuff sounds as pie in the sky as moon bases did during the cold war era.
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:36 am
by Doombrain
Jesus trans you’re talking about 1000s of years from now. Just getting man to mars is going to be a huge achievement never mind opening a refinery and mine to process fuel. Just think about everything that’s needed to maintain logistics, forget the fuel plant, just moving raw materials is going to take heavy lifting kit.
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 7:42 am
by Doombrain
anyway, the plasma engine is for more exciting than Elon Christ.
Re: Musk codenamed his new rocket idea "BFR"
Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2017 8:08 am
by Transient
The idea of a private space company launching reusable rockets was pie in the sky thinking not too long ago. C'mon guys, smoke a joint and embrace the future!