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USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:36 pm
by Pext
Land of the free!

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014 ... ard-rectal

What a great country. Congratulations. A beacon in the dark. Keep up the good work :up:

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:42 pm
by Lieutenant Dan
Jesus Christ.

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:46 pm
by xer0s
Good to know we've got some balls...

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:27 pm
by seremtan
and look at all the countries that helped them :disgust:

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:28 pm
by seremtan
xer0s wrote:Good to know we've got some balls...
yeah, in a jar, on the director of the CIA's desk

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2014 11:57 pm
by Whiskey 7
You do have to wonder given...
The CIA’s chief of interrogations characterized rectal rehydration as a method of “total control” over detainees, and an unnamed person said the procedure helped to “clear a person’s head”.

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:14 am
by SoM
seremtan wrote:
xer0s wrote:Good to know we've got some balls...
yeah, in a jar, on the director of the CIA's desk
copyrighted so it's not used in the next installment of Bourne

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:25 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
xer0s wrote:Good to know we've got some balls...
you should read the report.

they did things like torture some guy's innocent retarded brother. as you are someone's retarded brother, i hope this helps you relate.

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:34 am
by fKd
That's the darkest thing I've read in a long time... ffs america :(

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:23 am
by mrd
In other news, human beings are sick, twisted pieces of fuckin' shit. Spank my ass and call me Charlie. What the fuck is this, the Dark Ages?

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:24 am
by xer0s
lol if you think we're the only country doing this (and I don't mean the third world countries or "isolated" countries). We're just the only one that allows for these types of Senate reports. The rest of them know to keep their mouths shut and not keep evidence of such abuse...

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:25 am
by mrd
You talking to me or fkd?

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:28 am
by xer0s
Anyone with the "oh my, for shame America" attitude...

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:32 am
by mrd
The CIA doctor overseeing the waterboarding of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed said that the prisoner was ingesting so much water that he or she was no longer concerned that regurgitated gastric acid was likely to damage his oesophagus. But, the doctor warned, the CIA should start using saline, because his electrolytes were becoming too diluted.

Thank fuck someone is overseeing this madness! *phew*

Anyone pointing fingers is a god damn fool. It is doubtful that anyone will ever know the full extent of the compliance and complicity of this shit. Hence why I said "human beings." We are just fucking fucked in the head. Reptilian mid-brain running rampant. What was that cartoon analogy? Albert Einstein in the backseat of a car trying to tell a fucking alligator how to drive?

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:34 am
by xer0s
lol, I'd like to see that...

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:34 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
we really are horrible

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:36 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
xer0s wrote:lol if you think we're the only country doing this (and I don't mean the third world countries or "isolated" countries). We're just the only one that allows for these types of Senate reports. The rest of them know to keep their mouths shut and not keep evidence of such abuse...
lol

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:13 am
by fKd
xer0s wrote:lol if you think we're the only country doing this (and I don't mean the third world countries or "isolated" countries). We're just the only one that allows for these types of Senate reports. The rest of them know to keep their mouths shut and not keep evidence of such abuse...

What are you basing that statement on exactly?

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:29 am
by mrd
fKd wrote:
xer0s wrote:lol if you think we're the only country doing this (and I don't mean the third world countries or "isolated" countries). We're just the only one that allows for these types of Senate reports. The rest of them know to keep their mouths shut and not keep evidence of such abuse...

What are you basing that statement on exactly?
Likely you saying "ffs america"

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:53 am
by fKd
Using the "others are doing it too" defense really does not excuse the fact does it? Also if you're going to use that defense you need to have some kind of proof, saying its is so does not make it so. But sure, lets see how this plays out...

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:43 am
by Captain
Fox News told xer0s "rectal rehydration" only hurts terrorists.

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:15 am
by losCHUNK
fKd wrote:Using the "others are doing it too" defense really does not excuse the fact does it? Also if you're going to use that defense you need to have some kind of proof, saying its is so does not make it so. But sure, lets see how this plays out...
This. Saying we do it cos everyone does is a piss poor excuse especially when based on nothing and holding America (government and agencies) in a positive light because they found out is even worse. These documents would have been seen or available to a shit ton of high rankers and cabinet members across 2 seperate governments especially with the shitstôrm Guantanamo was causing.

People need to be facing hard time over this.

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:08 pm
by Κracus
xer0s wrote:Good to know we've got some balls...
If you don't stand up to defend the rights of people you don't like, when they come to take your rights away you'll have already lost that battle.

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:30 pm
by Eraser
xer0s wrote:lol if you think we're the only country doing this (and I don't mean the third world countries or "isolated" countries). We're just the only one that allows for these types of Senate reports. The rest of them know to keep their mouths shut and not keep evidence of such abuse...
Oh, the good old "but we aren't the only ones doing it" argument. Just because other people are doing horrible things as well doesn't mean it makes it alright for you to do horrible things as well.

No one is saying it's alright for others to do similar things either. It's just that the facts are plain and simple right now: there's proof on the table the CIA did this and there's no proof whatsoever any other country's intelligence agency did similar things. In a world where the rule is still innocent until proven guilty, it's quite alright to be angry at the US over this while not harboring any ill feelings towards other countries for which there is no proof they did similar things.

Re: USA! USA! USA!

Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:35 pm
by xer0s
Seems like I always have to explain my comments because ya'll always jump to conclusions.

I never defended the actions described in the report. But when I see people saying thing like "ffs America", I feel the need to point out, we're not the only ones doing this shit. I shouldn't have to say "that doesn't make it right". That's pretty much implied...