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Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:51 pm
by Don Carlos
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-28948946
A nine year-old girl in the US has killed her shooting instructor by accident while being shown how to use a high-powered submachine gun.

The instructor was giving the girl a lesson at a shooting range in Arizona when the recoil from the automatic fire caused her to lose control of the Uzi.

Charles Vacca, 39, was shot in the head and died after being airlifted to a hospital in Las Vegas.

The girl was at the shooting range with her parents, who filmed the lesson.
I have no words

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:02 pm
by scared?
Ur a fucking moron... Pay attention next time...

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:19 pm
by Don Carlos
That's exactly what you'd say to your kid before handing them a shot gun

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:24 pm
by shaft
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=50473

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:43 pm
by Don Carlos
Thank you, Shaft, for being useful.

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:09 pm
by Κracus
aren't fully automatic guns illegal even in the US? Who sets up a 9 year old with something like that?

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:17 pm
by xer0s
Nope, not illegal. Although, you can't just walk into a store and buy one. Gotta get fingerprinted and go through an extensive background check by the state bureau of investigation. Its a long process, takes a few months...

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:28 pm
by PhoeniX
Hmm like I said in the other thread, why wasn't it strapped to some sort of tripod to prevent it from recoiling like that? Crazy.

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:00 pm
by xer0s
Grown men have no trouble maintaining control of automatic weapons. Children should not be shooting them...

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:11 pm
by scared?
nothing is more fun than shooting a auto weapon...cept maybe shooting one at a few of u morons...

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:11 pm
by losCHUNK
gay fag

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:26 pm
by andyman
this is 100% the instructors fault

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:28 pm
by losCHUNK
aye, nothing to do with the legality of allowing 9 year olds to use firearms

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 10:32 pm
by scared?
Laws are for morons...

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:56 pm
by Ryoki
andyman wrote:this is 100% the instructors fault
Care to illuminate us non gun nuts about how he screwed up exactly? I'm kinda curious. Did he stand on the wrong side or something? Or do you simply mean a 9 year old should never be firing a fully automatic submachine gun and the dude should have known better?

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:58 pm
by LawL
I'm guessing he should have realised a girl of that size would be unable to control the recoil of such a gun.

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:03 pm
by xer0s
Hell, Stevie Wonder could see that...

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:03 pm
by Ryoki
That would be my guess as well. Was wondering if there was more to it than that - Andy should know.

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:14 pm
by scared?
Ryoki... The dumbest person on the internet...

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:17 pm
by Ryoki
But not the poorest...

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:18 pm
by obsidian
Kid shouldn't have been given an uzi, but the instructor should have been standing behind her. Poor kid's gonna be traumatized for life.

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:21 pm
by losCHUNK
But even if stood behind, doesn't it still have the potential to go up and into her face instead ?

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:25 pm
by obsidian
Yup, as I mentioned kid shouldn't have been given an uzi. I'm just saying that instructors are always supposed to stand behind the person shooting.

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:30 pm
by losCHUNK
Gotcha :up:

Re: Arizona shooting: Girl, nine, kills gun instructor

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:26 pm
by andyman
Ryoki wrote:
andyman wrote:this is 100% the instructors fault
Care to illuminate us non gun nuts about how he screwed up exactly? I'm kinda curious. Did he stand on the wrong side or something? Or do you simply mean a 9 year old should never be firing a fully automatic submachine gun and the dude should have known better?
The freakin guy... he's loosely bracing her in semi auto mode, and then probably trying to show off for the parents so they can get a neat little video says "OK NOW FULL AUTO", switches the selector, kid pulls the trigger on a submachine gun with a high rate of fire and BBRRAAAPPPPP..... the recoil overtakes her which pulled up and to the left, giving him a bullet in the head.

It is 100% his fault and not the fault of any law (chunk). this is a candidate for the darwin awards.